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Just figured out how aerials and newschool are different

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morocco_mole
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the aerialists dont actually spin off the jump from what understand. Aerialist just throw a STRAIGHT backflip and once they start flipping they move their arms in order to INDUCE a spin because of the conservation of angular momentum. Same as when you have a gyroscope and try to turn it one way and it moves another way for some reason. They are backfliping so fast that it has alot of angular momentum so moving their arms in certain ways can get them to spin in a way. They can also do the same thing to stop themselves from spinning. That is why aerialists always seem to end their trick without spin.

Just watch the first jump in this video. He starts with only backflip, and then moves his arms to get some fake spin going.





So anyways I think dumont is nasty as anything, but his front flip to misty 7 is just a front flip aerial. He does a straight front flip and then starts himself spinning with his arms. Its cheap spin though, not real.

its at 125 in this video






So anyways i think Deschenaux was right about simons front flip misty, it really is an aerials trick which is kind of gay. Kangeroo flips are def not related to aerials i dont think.
Feb 22 2008 12:36AM
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CJHski
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o really
Feb 22 2008 12:37AM
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Piste.Off
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are underflips aerials?
Feb 22 2008 12:38AM
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Dustin.
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Aerials are all about to-the-t form and newschool is about style, innovation, and goin big

Feb 22 2008 12:40AM
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Capurnicus
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smoke crack much lately?
Feb 22 2008 12:40AM
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morocco_mole
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i dont think they are because aerials means you only start off doing a backflip then you do something else but you dont spin off the jump, i think underflip you spin off the lip of the jump
Feb 22 2008 12:40AM
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TechnoPotamus
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i have the answer.   aerials are gay, no style.     talent: hell yes.   style: fuck no.
Feb 22 2008 12:49AM
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jahmin44
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do people do switch flat spins and switch rodeos and stuff? cause i was just thinking of ways skiing could progress and i realized i have never seen a switch flat or rodeo 5. so if people ahvent done those someone should!
Feb 22 2008 12:50AM
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DwreckRoy
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I'm with slag. Aerial guys have hella talent and skill, incredible form, and balls as big as my head, but no style. If you wanna throw quad backflip 7's, be my guest, but your not gonna be able to cross your skis up and steeze it out.
Feb 22 2008 1:02AM
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Alex_G
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not if there's a tail grab in them and if they are super slow. anything with style is not an aerial.
Feb 22 2008 1:10AM
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emopoppins
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thats such a good point about simons flip i've never thought about it that way. my question now is can he throw it and do a grab without using his arms for gyroscopic rotation? when he figures that out and puts a sick grab in it should look sweet. personally i think he should skip the front flip and throw it more like a flattened flatspin to sideways misty 7 with some high mute grab.

other than that simon is the man. (sw 3 = steez)
and so is jossi and colby in that video.
Feb 22 2008 1:47AM
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three6steeze
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off topic but you know what my fav trick out of the edit is? Jossi's barley corked 7 at 1:45, no grab but so smooth so effortless and so sick looking.
Feb 22 2008 3:00AM
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snowboardersrule
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the difference is in style. dub filps are a joke fore areilists, but making them look good is the challenge that freeskiers take on.
Feb 22 2008 3:07AM
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Gharf
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Feb 22 2008 4:28AM
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Silence
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Simons new front/misty combo?
Feb 22 2008 4:34AM
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colin13
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the difference between aerials and freestyle is that in freestyle you can do whatever the fuck you want if it looks cool and you throw a grab in there somewhere.
Feb 22 2008 7:44AM
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pbandj
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go watch some footage of pollard
Feb 22 2008 8:52AM
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spliff.Life
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are fakie switch reverse zerospins arials?
Feb 22 2008 9:41AM
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ATLskier
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Those tricks were still in their infancy that day.  style will come later.
Feb 22 2008 10:51AM
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agent420
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I've never seen an arielist front flip off the take off.. only back flips.

Does that really make simon's front flip misty 7 an ariel jump ???

it's a dope trick dude...serious. 
Feb 22 2008 10:57AM
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M+M
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wow thats really weird, i was just in the shower thinking about the same thing
Feb 22 2008 10:59AM
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Alex_G
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No dude, simon's front flip FULL not misty 7, is a gymnastics trick. Gymnastics ---> Aerials.

If he kept his rotation going left on the full, then it would be a misty but he doesnt. He goes back the other way about half way through his spin.
Feb 22 2008 11:08AM
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Yauch
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i think once he started his misty he could put a grab in, but he wasnt really spinning
Feb 22 2008 11:22AM
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matthasaurusrex
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If you have to go into this much detail to distinguish aerials from 'newschool' something i wrong.
Feb 22 2008 11:25AM
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Yauch
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i think its just a front flip version of an aerial. Aerialists dont do front flips, but simons trick doesnt start to spin until he has done full front flip, and aerialists usually dont start spinning until they have done at least one full backflip
Feb 22 2008 11:26AM
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Yauch
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its not that detailed. Basically newschoolers almost always have a horizontal rotation put into the take off.

aerialist Never have this.
Feb 22 2008 11:28AM
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matthasaurusrex
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/sigh
Feb 22 2008 11:31AM
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Yauch
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i dont understand
Feb 22 2008 1:54PM
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Abes2009
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what the hell was that flip at 1:55
Feb 22 2008 2:12PM
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Tucks
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style
Feb 22 2008 2:14PM
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