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Bindings on fat skis: something I didn't know

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BobYohan
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At the end of last season, I picked up a pair of Scratch BCs and some old model (but new) rossi axial 140 bindings pretty cheap.  After about 10 uses this season, one of the toepieces ripped off.  I wasn't doing anything special when it happened, but i'd been nosebuttering a lot that day which may have pulled it out.  When I brought them in to the shop, the dude took a look and said it was wierd how the binding had pulled straight vertically off the ski and decided to talk to rossi about it.  They informed him that the reason the binding pulled off was that since that binding was built with a narrower ski in mind, the screws were too close together.  They encouraged me to purchase a specialty Scratch binding with wider screws to prevent this from happening again.  Did anyone else know you can't put regualr bindings on wide skis, or am I just an idiot?  Isn't it pretty common to mount regular rossi/look axial bindings on powder skis?

Feb 20 2008 12:01AM
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K2skipunk
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Like the Marker Duke and Jester, they were made for a wider ski, the screws are farther apart. That sucks about your bindings though dood.
Feb 20 2008 12:08AM
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CTD
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that sounds like a way out of a warranty to me. tons of people ride FKS and Pivot binders on fat skis.
Feb 20 2008 12:16AM
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Feb 20 2008 12:18AM
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titsLOL
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it's true that wider mounting patterns are better yes, as for buying a specialty rossi binding, that is some bull shit. As far as I know every toe piece from the last like 5 years has the same exact mounting pattern. except maybe some even narrower kids ones or something. That is pretty much the biggest disadvantage of look/rossi is that they love rippin out of skis. The px style heels have way bigger mounting patterns than the pivot/turn table ones though that's an improvement as far as mounting goes. But yea one time a rossi rep told me that the scratches are amazing because the cores will remain like new for 250 days, and he also told me that the demo skis I was looking at were better than new ones.  moral of the story: take a reps advice with a grain of salt, someones job is rarely a reliable actual indication of what they know these days.
Feb 20 2008 12:21AM
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-Nick-
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shit ive got scratch 120s on my bacons i hope this doesnt happen to me...
Feb 20 2008 12:23AM
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Silence
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I really wonder what binding Rossi recommends for their fatter gear - because they double the warranty if you couple a rossi ski and binding together
Feb 20 2008 12:29AM
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Piste.Off
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does rossi even sell actual fatter heel pieces with the screw holes farther apart? ive never heard of this.
Feb 20 2008 12:30AM
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Silence
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Nor have I
Feb 20 2008 12:31AM
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kolekaine
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yes i knew, my friend hasnt though. hahahaha
Feb 20 2008 1:19AM
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Dustin.
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It's gonna happen every once in a while.  Most people put FKS and Rossi style toepieces on their skis and they hold up fine.  You just hear about the bad luck.  Plus a nose butter puts a ton of force on the binding
Feb 20 2008 1:21AM
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yeahitsdave
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hole pattern on teh scratch line actually got a little closer this year. whatever, seems contradictoral.
Feb 20 2008 1:50AM
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Love_Wins.
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Total BS man...tell them you want the warranty cause they are full of it.

All the Rossi toes are the same pattern.

And the fact that you were nose-buttering is irrelevant, as that would put vertical pressure on the heel, not the toe.
Feb 20 2008 3:17AM
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Silence
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word nosebuttering wouldn't put any upward stress on the toepiece - heel yes, toe no.
Feb 20 2008 4:04AM
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