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HD DVD is officially dead

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Rapt0r
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sucks i just got an HD DVD player for christmas

http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-9874199-7.html?tag=nefd.top
Feb 19 2008 1:12PM
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wh@t
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sad, depressing and annoying. annoying because now i have to go buy a brand fucking new player, just to watch new movies.
im crushed.
Feb 19 2008 1:23PM
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dave44
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it's about time



Feb 19 2008 1:25PM
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Mat.
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what is a blueray player. how is it different from em regular dvds?
Feb 19 2008 1:29PM
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Mat.
Posts: 7167 - Karma: 94
dvd players*
Feb 19 2008 1:32PM
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wh@t
Posts: 6204 - Karma: 51
i dont really know, but i do know that its like the new optical reading system. i guess its better when it really seems like the same thing.
Feb 19 2008 1:44PM
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Mr.O
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i think i read somewhere that blueray plays discs with a greater amount of memory r a greater amount of stuff on it and the fact that it is in HD but other than that im not sure if there is much of a difference
Feb 19 2008 2:22PM
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Pipe_Munky
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the difference between Blu-ray and HD DVD is similar to the VHS vs BETA war (for those that are old enough)


Feb 19 2008 2:24PM
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dave44
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a common dvd nowadays can hold like 8gigs on a side... i suppose if you have dual layered DVD's double sided you could get 16 gigs (theoretically).

bluray discs can hold up to 25 gigs i think, 50 if its double-sided.
Feb 19 2008 2:29PM
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PacificRimJob
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VHS obviously won..
Feb 19 2008 2:41PM
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StitcheS
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It's just sony being pricks and trying to profit.
Feb 19 2008 3:11PM
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parkerhouse
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wait really?
Feb 19 2008 3:17PM
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steevner
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I think beta 8 takes the cake, personally.

But for everyone asking about blu-ray.

blu-ray≈HD DVD

xbox 360 has hddvd capabilities, and ps3 has blu-ray.
Feb 19 2008 3:29PM
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jimmychung
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WTF IS VHS??!1
Feb 19 2008 4:00PM
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comeatmebro
Posts: 10720 - Karma: 66
okay, i apologize in advance for not knowing anything about this

but what is a blueray DVD? you are telling me, that my DVD player won't work anymore? and that my computer's DVD player won't work? can someone enlighten me because if so that is shit.
Feb 19 2008 4:06PM
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Pman13a
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blue ray and hd dvd were just 2 competing companies making dvds in HD (sony and toshiba)

they both are pretty much the same thing in the fact that they can fit a rediculous amount of space on them and your movies can be in HD.

HD-DVD was in xbox 360s
Blue Ray is in PS3s

Blue Ray won the battle, but I wish HD-DVD did because of the name alone haha, its a lot less confusing.  So all you with an HD dvd player will no longer be able to buy HD dvds to play in it, leaving you with what you have, and making the player worthless so tough luck

Yes you will need a blue ray player in order to play a blue ray dvd, however they will continue to release regular dvds for a long time, untill it gets cheap enough and common for everyone to have a blue ray player, and they start putting them in computers and such.

However i wouldnt worry about it, they still release VHS tapes of movies so it will be a while till you cant get any more regular dvds

and also if you dont have an HD tv with like 720p or 1080p or whatever it really wont matter cause it will look basically the same
Feb 19 2008 4:15PM
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08-Line_Rider
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:( so sad HDDVD had better picture and more space i really thought they had it
Feb 19 2008 4:16PM
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Rapt0r
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yeah cept this time sony won
Feb 19 2008 4:18PM
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comeatmebro
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okay i understand now. thanks.
Feb 19 2008 4:25PM
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skihillraod
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sony, speilberg and sony dynamic digital sound were behind the DIVX revolution that failed in the late 1990's too.  Remember those - you boght the divx disc for 4 dollars, put in the divx player (also played reg dvd) and after 24 hours, the divx disc wouldn't work anymore!

Sony is willing to waste so much money just for the smallest market share it is rediculous. 

Feb 19 2008 4:43PM
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saucer_boy_lives
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haha that wasnt a surprise. 
Feb 19 2008 6:10PM
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Quinny
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http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hfFVgshT7PqGp1otzd4w1kJ_MecQD8UTLF600
Feb 19 2008 6:30PM
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bobross
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Umm check yo facts
Blu-ray has more capacity in GB and in video hour length

                                     DVD                        HD-DVD                                    Bluray
Disc capacity 4.7GB (single layer)
8.5GB (dual layer) 15GB (single layer)
30GB (dual layer)
51GB (prototype triple layer) 25GB (single layer)
50GB (dual layer)
100GB (prototype quad layer) Video capacity (per dual-layer disc)2 SD: approximately 3 hours
HD: n/a SD: approximately 13 hours
HD: 5.1 or 3.3 hours, depending on encoding method SD: approximately 23 hours
HD: 8.5 or 5.6 hours, depending on encoding method
Feb 19 2008 6:31PM
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bobross
Posts: 468 - Karma: 11
damn the table didnt work
It is all right here

http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-13817_7-6462511-2.html?tag=nav
Feb 19 2008 6:32PM
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Tasche
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I wouldn't worry about buying anything in ten years we are just going to download everything and there will be no discs. Just hard drives.
Feb 19 2008 6:36PM
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BIG_SALTY
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what sucks is the new players are going to be super expensive.
Feb 19 2008 7:09PM
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TheButterHashira
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I really wanted hd dvd to win because the name bluray sounds fucking retarded.
Feb 19 2008 7:23PM
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artfullydodged
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... i like my dvd player?
Feb 19 2008 7:40PM
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Bigwoods
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Wasn't Christmas like 2 months ago?
I'll stick with DVDs
Feb 19 2008 7:52PM
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uosdwiSrjewoH
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umm, neither, good try though.  Granted, the picture is similar enough to be debatable, but blu ray discs definitely holds more.
Feb 19 2008 8:24PM
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2+2=5
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blu ray was obviously going to be the better choice because it can store way more than hddvd, people shouldnt of been so stupid.
Feb 19 2008 8:29PM
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Quinny
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The consumer isn't going to give a shit about storage size on the disk. The reason Blu-Ray won out was the same reason VHS did, they had the big companies on their side. Warner Brothers, the News Corp, and Disney all sided with Sony's format.
Feb 19 2008 8:33PM
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2+2=5
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why do you think the companies backed blu ray? because they just felt like it? more storage at the same price of a hd dvd = better for the consumer

i do think that 100GB on a disk is pretty incredible, compared to a DVD that can hold 8-16GB (i think?). and i have no clue what can fill that. and in the long run, blu ray is ahead of its time, and it'll take a while to find something better, because we dont need anything better.



Feb 19 2008 8:43PM
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liaosongfang
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toshiba was the only brand to back HD DVD so it was just a matter of time.  it wasn't really a suprise.  oh well.  i'm just glad the prices are coming down.  i wanna get one for my plasma as soon as they're down to like $200 which should only be a few months
Feb 19 2008 8:46PM
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whattheshit
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another reason why ps3 is better.
Feb 19 2008 8:47PM
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Quinny
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You have no idea why companies backed Blu-Ray. You're probably right that capacity plays a factor, but I'm sure that there were other considerations that were more political. Just look at how Microsoft Office got to be so "popular" and widely used.

I disagree with you that we've topped out and that "we dont need anything better" for a while. We already have the technology to replace disks entirely. My guess is that the future will be a large hard drive in your TV that you can download HD digital movies to your own home for a fee. Kinda like TiVo, but permanent and in better quality.
Feb 19 2008 9:06PM
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Silence
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But if Sony had have marketed Betamax better, it would probably have been the preferred standard.

I'm surprised that Toshiba gave in to Sony by going with Bluray, it wasn't looking like Blu-Ray would get a majority for a long time, but there you go.
Feb 19 2008 9:15PM
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2+2=5
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actually, it'll more likely split into 2 markets. digital downloads, and hard copy versions of movies. some people don't like the idea of not physically owning a movie so they'll buy it on blu ray. while other people will just download a movie off of itunes or something. plus there is the issue of how much the harddrive can store, and if it breaks or not. and if they make it internal harddrive, people cant bring movies that they bought to other peoples houses.


Feb 19 2008 9:25PM
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SteezePatrol
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so...how does this effect us without HD DVD players or Blue Ray players?

Feb 19 2008 9:31PM
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Pman13a
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if you have a hd dvd player you just threw away your money

if you have a blue ray player you have the future of HD movies and you are set
Feb 19 2008 11:21PM
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SteezePatrol
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uh, thanks for that. but how does this effect us with neither. will they stop producing normal DVD's and only in Blue Ray or what
Feb 19 2008 11:28PM
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Bentley@DOSMedia
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dvds only hold 4.7 gigs per side with about 9 on a double layered dvd.
I believe blue rays are 17 per side for a total of 34 gigs.
That means they are HD ready and dvd's can be compressed less to produce better quality.
Feb 20 2008 12:15AM
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gordie.
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dude u dont know what VHS is? how old are you? 8?
Feb 20 2008 12:33AM
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dammitmike
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i gotta admit ps3 does win this battle. congrats

PS3: 1
360: 16 million and counting
Feb 20 2008 12:43AM
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caucasian_chad
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By the time that happens BluRay player and disc prices will have come down, so it won't be a big deal.  But that won't happen for a while.
Feb 20 2008 12:45AM
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ArmadaFreerider8
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i'm happy because i have my PS3
Feb 20 2008 1:03AM
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tjski
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im glad that hd dvd and blue-ray didnt take off fast because i wouldve been annoyied if i had to get a new $500 hd/blue ray player...
Feb 20 2008 2:00AM
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*Fujative*
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It uses a blue laser rather then a red. Since blue light is faster, it can read more info quick then red can
Feb 20 2008 10:34AM
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Tasche
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hum physics disagrees with you sir. There is a set speed of light. Hence the phrase "the speed of light" however blue and red light waves do have different wave lengths.
Feb 20 2008 12:32PM
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Capurnicus
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ahahaahaha. did you hear??? blu ray technology changes the speed of light!!
Feb 20 2008 12:51PM
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Tasche
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Blue ray technology can contain your whole movie collection on one disc and raped my mom.
Feb 20 2008 12:59PM
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