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T-hall 08 vs dumont 08

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123ski
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I can get either one for the same price. I have steezes for a powder ski, so this would be just a park only ski, nothing else.  Which would you get? 5'10" 175 lbs, skiing for 17 years, park skiing for 9 years now. 
Feb 14 2008 5:57PM
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123ski
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also, all my park skiing is at Park City
Feb 14 2008 6:01PM
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Pirruccio
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dumonts
no doubt
Feb 14 2008 6:06PM
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123ski
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statement without opinion?
Feb 14 2008 6:36PM
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123ski
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My real worry is this:

Salomon: cap construction = delam
thin edges = broken edges
dumont = stiff ski

T-hall: Fiberglass behind and infront of boot make the flex pattern weird for jumping, and the ski is only good for rails.
Feb 14 2008 6:37PM
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___ASP___
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ok, t hall vs dumont i would go dumont

but throw in pipe cleaner vs dumonot i would go 100% pipe cleaner
Feb 14 2008 7:29PM
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Klick_2_klaim
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jeez if you have been "park skiing" so long youd think you wouldnt have to ask anymore.

Feb 14 2008 8:10PM
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Capurnicus
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get them t-halls for sure. dopest park ski.
Feb 14 2008 8:11PM
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three6steeze
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not nessecarily...

hes asking intelligent educated questions about the skis...
It really depends on how many seasons you want to get out of these skis, i think you would have more fun on the Dumont but i dont think it will last as long.


Feb 14 2008 8:21PM
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Klick_2_klaim
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uhhh no not really.
Does no one go to the sites and look? like ever?
Do the t-halls, I mean he beats dumont all the time, so clearly his ski is better.
Feb 14 2008 8:25PM
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theoz
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why  hate the guys onlyasking for advice on what ski to buy
Feb 14 2008 8:31PM
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Klick_2_klaim
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no hate, not at all.
Only a keen observation.
Feb 14 2008 8:33PM
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chairdawg
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dumonts dont delam too easily if you kick them together on the lift they might catch buy mine have like a single small chip on them
Feb 14 2008 8:35PM
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three6steeze
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sounds like solid evidence...?
Website hype and comp results..yeahh.

the dumont will kill the thall while it lasts was my point.
Feb 14 2008 8:39PM
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123ski
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dude, you are an a-hole.  If you saw my questions they were obviously pointed to whomever has skied either ski.  I have skied park for 12 years, but I haven't skied on every ski that is made.  I gave my legitimate concerns about every ski which shows I know the difference between the two constructions of the ski, i know what is good and bad about each ski, and I wanted to know if they really were as good/bad skiing skis as every review says they were.  It is called making an educated purchase.
Feb 14 2008 8:45PM
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1080ski
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if your worried about a delam, armada will delam much easier than the dumont. the dumont is also pretty soft (but i weigh 190 so that could be why haha). i skied the AR6's before the dumonts, and the dumonts are WAY more fun. super poppy, easy to butter, and all around DOPE. my friend has the t-halls fromt his year and his rear binding peice is tearing out already. the bindings i had on my ar6's tore out 3 times (all in the toe piece). that could be the fact tha ti had marker bindings, but my friend doesnt and he still has this problem.
Feb 14 2008 8:52PM
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Klick_2_klaim
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sniffle... not an a-hole. Gasp!!! what will I do?
Good for you for "park skiing". Nice.
I coulda just said SEARCHBAR!!!!   then I would be a totall fucking douchey a hole right?

Feb 14 2008 8:52PM
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n-o
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weird dude.. i ski them and love them.. more so than my ar6's or troubles that i had
Feb 14 2008 8:55PM
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123ski
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I did searchbar, but I didn't find much info cause most of you kids don't know anything
Feb 14 2008 8:58PM
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chairdawg
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hah sorry, trying to multitask, homework and newschoolers does not go hand in hand.
Feb 14 2008 9:05PM
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Klick_2_klaim
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ok fuck, searchbar harder. Even the kids on here can figure that shit out.

dumonts, sick ski... poppy, great profile for anywhere on the hill. (clearly not anything deeper than the knees. I assume since youve been park skiing hahaha for 12 years you remember when a fat ski was like 78 at the waist and can ski properly) theyre pretty bomber, they are great for jibbing because they are light, they have edge re-enforcement all around. Dull your edges before jibbing... or get cracked edges. Thats how it works. Clearly the ski works great in the pipe, and on jumps... its all you ever see Simon doing on this very ski. Even though he slays everywhere, neet kid. fast bases, neet graphics, and unless you are one of those people who do wierd things to skis, youre not going to pop out any of the cap. Oh and wood core... so there you go.

T-halls, sicker... (in my opinion.)
Theyre fine on jumps, stiff enough underfoot to be stable and fine. The carbon stringers tip to tail and neeto fiberglass keep the tip and tails torsionally rigid, but allow for sweet buttering... and still tons of pop. sidewalls, simple graphic, speedy tough base,  its a ski designed by the best skier in the world, how could you go wrong right? its not just good for rails either champ. I have ridden the 81 and its 82 underfoot i believe and thats fine to ride anywhere on the hill yet again. NOw I know someone is just gonna say if it snows you cant ride them cause theyre too narrow... learn how to ski is my only reply to that. (haha or watch hot dog and see how they did it back when hop turns and ballet were the hotness)

I say t halls, for your "park skiing"

whos the asshole now?
Feb 14 2008 9:17PM
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doGelyst
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T-halls will help you spin right side better, then you can talk like you are one of the better skiers because you were one of the first to spin rightside.
Feb 14 2008 9:25PM
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123ski
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Sorry, I meant 9 years on park skiing. Anyway. I have broken SOOOO Many cap construction wood core skis in my lifetime that that was what was making me nervous.  I had hear so much about the fiberglass in front and behind the boot (not in the tip and tail by the way) that make the flex really weird for anything but rails, which is why I came on here.  Yes, you are correct, in my 9 years of park skiing I haven't had a ski with fiberglass in front and behind the boot, so I thought I would ask if it would affect jumping and stuff, since I have heard that it will. This is a legitimate question and you don't have to treat me like a n00b because I obviously am not.  I had a legitimate question, and finally you gave me the knowledge that you have on the t-hall for which I owe you gratitude.
Feb 14 2008 9:30PM
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coolhandluke
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whats wrong with the 2007 versions?

backcountry.com says:

t-halls are $211.98

dumonts are $219.98
Feb 14 2008 11:55PM
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k2skier050
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I have 06/07 T-halls and i love them, they have great pop off lips  and they are pretty stable for jumping.  The only problem is the lamination chips pretty easily. I've never tried the dumonts so i really can't say which one is better.

Feb 15 2008 12:13AM
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*DrewT*
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If you like to butter and jib, if you like a soft ski, go with the T Halls

If you like to boost the pipe, if you like a stiff ski, go with the Dumonts.

Honestly you can't just ask the general public what ski is gonna be better for you and not tell them what you like in a ski.


If all you want is my opinion though I would probably go for T halls unless you ride pipe a whole lot
Feb 15 2008 12:54AM
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japanada
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The 08 dumonts are sidewalled, with double reinforced 3.5mm edges, beefcakes for sure imo. After I split my ARVs dicut base this season after about 10 days, idk if I could get another armada ski with a dicut base. And I thought I saw in the armada 08 catalog that the thalls have that base, but I may be way off. I would go with the dumonts over the thalls, stiffer skis=more pop and livleyness.
Feb 15 2008 1:27AM
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Clandestino
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Yo man you should buy both and have superpipe competitions between the skis, that would be dope as hell. I will judge the competitions.  I hear that Clandestino does pole jousting. t-hall wins.
Feb 15 2008 2:25AM
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123ski
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Sorry, I was talking about the 07-08 (or 08) not the 08-09 (or 09) ski, thanks for stating the obvious though
Feb 15 2008 2:45AM
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skibum311
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hahahaha  skijoesh, i like the little battle you had there with that kid. that was funny for me to read. You bought  your skis yet?

Feb 24 2008 11:23PM
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