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Army- Yes-no?

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gbirrd
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Alroght heres the deal, im interested in going into the army cuz its something that realy intests me. I dont know i i should do it cuz of all the shits thats going on. My dad says go for it and my mom says she will never talk to me again. wtf should i do.
Feb 9 2008 6:28PM
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Anathema
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the army weeds out the people that natural selection misses.

go for it!
Feb 10 2008 5:27PM
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fujarome
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that's not at all what i said, or what i meant.

What i mean is that if people volunteer to go over, people like me, who don't volunteer, won't have to. If i had to go, i would, i've even considered voluntarily joining. Thats part of what makes joining an admirable, respectable thing to do, the fact that someone else is making a sacrifice so i don't have to. I'm fine with the draft, i just think it's better to have volunteers.

and you're probably another one of those people who wouldn't be affected by the draft anyways, so you could probably care less. If you are over 18, my bad, i apologize. But I just don't think people who could be affected by a draft should say shit about it and people not wanting to go.
Feb 10 2008 5:35PM
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SmoKinSkier
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If you were actually educated on the topic it would help...There is thousands of jobs in the military, most involve zero to little risk to your life. At least no more risk than someone working in a factory with heavy machinery or a worker in a chemical plant.

And i would hope there isn't a person out that that watched the commercial and said wow that looks fun and ran out and signed up without doing any research.

Is it for everyone absolutely not but it is a hell of a challenge and very rewarding i have yet to regret it even for a second.

That being said i would never tell or try and persuade anyone to join without being fully behind it. It is a huge decision and should be made for yourself I can tell you of my experiences and tel you what it may be like but ultimately it has to be that persons decision  that is why i disagree with some recruiters tactics
Feb 10 2008 6:20PM
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gbirrd
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 ok heres the deal my mom said shell never talk to me again but she really didnt mean it. she meant it like she'll really not like the idea. me n here get along great too. shes just looking out for me cuz thts what moms do
Feb 10 2008 6:50PM
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Anathema
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go to school and be a pilot or something. that'd be a sweet deal. once you get out of the army you can be a commercial pilot too. i've always wanted to fly, but when i applied to military college they bailed on me because i had a broken collerbone thanks to skiing. bastards would rather have a bunch of inactive douchebags training with em i guess.. pissed me right off. 'sorry, you'll have to apply again next year'. even after passing the qualifying tests with flying colors.

but anyways dont just join the army because you like guns and want to kill 'bad guys'. you'll just end up getting yourself, or worse yet, somebody else killed.

if your mindset is 'i want to make a difference', be a doctor. go to a 3rd world country and provide medical aid to those in dire need. lots of people throw that phrase around, but not very many truly mean it. it seems like an excuse to justify going to war.

it all depends on the kind of person you are. are you the kind who genuinely wants to help others, or are you looking for self-gratification?
Feb 10 2008 7:14PM
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wellpreparedrare
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shes not just looking out for you man

shes looking out for her son



i don't kno u, all i kno is me, and, for me, i wouldn't go

don't do it for honor, or to be a renegade, or to prove a point, or work for connections

u should only do it if u believe in what you'd be fighting for

not think, suppose, assume, guess - believe

either way, it's a decision u'll have to make, and i wish u luck wherever u go
Feb 10 2008 7:14PM
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Gavajabra
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Haha my mom was trippin balls because when I turned 17 the army started sending me tons of shit trying to recruit me, AND I shave my head and love MMA so she thought I'd be the type to join so she would throw every army thing she found away/or hide it, so I wouldnt be tempted to join.

Personally I know 3 people in the army, 1 joined because his dad was in the army and wanted him to join, the other joined because he thought it was "his duty", and another joined because his life was turned to shit after attempting to run away to Florida after being suspended for having porn on his iPod.

Hope that helps.
Feb 10 2008 7:22PM
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Dr_Feelgood
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fuck that shit. if your gonna join any of that shit, join the air force. at least there you dont get shot at. or you could just go to college like basically everyone else. even community college is better than the army or air force. you dont get shot at, you can have a GIRLfriend, and you can set yourself up for the future. so yeaaa
Feb 10 2008 7:23PM
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wellpreparedrare
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i second that, except for the air force part, id rather be shot at while on the ground rather than a target to some missile up in the sky
Feb 10 2008 7:40PM
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jacobg
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tru dat
Feb 10 2008 7:43PM
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ax_murderer
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someones got too protect all us pussy's on ns.
Feb 10 2008 8:05PM
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gbirrd
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bump
Feb 10 2008 10:51PM
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lotsoffun
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these are still the effects of global warming, also climate change.

haha people thought it was auspicious, but really it just foreshadows the oncoming of huge drought and rain storms
Feb 10 2008 10:53PM
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doublexl
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fuck no!
Feb 10 2008 10:55PM
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Alex_G
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Ask yourself: is it really worth putting yourself through some life or death situations? or would you rather go to college, party your balls off, and have a great time?

I go with the latter always.
Feb 10 2008 10:56PM
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wellpreparedrare
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u've got tons of reasons why not to

r u looking for reasons to convince urself?

here's one, you want to, so go ahead, i mean, it's a huge commitment and huge sacrifice, but, if you make it out okay (like healthy and not insane), u just might be able to recover and get a menial job

that was mean, sorry
gluck again

our troops r the shit
their leader isn't

Feb 10 2008 10:58PM
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freestyler540
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Here are some sweet quotes everyone should think about:

"Mankind must put an end to war, or war will put an end to mankind."
-John F. Kennedy"War does not determine who is right - only who is left"
-Burtrand Russell

"I think the human race needs to think about killing. How much evil must we do
to do good?"
-Robert McNamara

"War is delightful to those who have not yet experienced it."
-Erasmus

"If we can't persuade nations with comparable values of the merits of our
cause, we'd better reexamine our reasoning."
-Robert McNamara

"Anyone, who truly wants to go to war, has truly never been there before!"
-Larry Reeves


Feb 10 2008 11:10PM
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wellpreparedrare
Posts: 651 - Karma: 11
+karma
Feb 10 2008 11:19PM
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Schne
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it's not worth your life man
Feb 10 2008 11:49PM
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Dustin.
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Here are some more, a few by Kennedy as well:

"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."

-John Stuart Mills

“What you have chosen to do for your country by devoting your life to the service of your nation is the greatest contribution any man could make.”

-President John F. Kennedy

"When there is an enemy to fight in open combat, many serve, all applaud, and the tide of patriotism runs high. But when there is a long, slow struggle, with no immediate, visible foe, your choice will seem hard indeed"

-President John F. Kennedy
Feb 11 2008 9:12PM
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