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Square tails?

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49rider
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what is the company that all their skis have square tails?, for some reason i cant seem to remember and its really bugging me

Feb 8 2008 1:43PM
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tjski
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moment
Feb 8 2008 1:43PM
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dave44
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Square tips AND tails?

Moment
Feb 8 2008 1:43PM
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Tinga
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what about the old head mojos
Feb 8 2008 1:45PM
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Jwalk
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i think the mad trix had em too
Feb 8 2008 1:47PM
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49rider
Posts: 161 - Karma: 10
wow, shoulda known that.  i thought i was thinking of a real small company but i was wrong.  problem solved.
Feb 8 2008 1:48PM
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Tinga
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moment is still a pretty small company.
Feb 8 2008 1:51PM
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Caveman.
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none of them were perfectly square they all had rounded corners
Feb 8 2008 2:06PM
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The_Oakley_Kid
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moment is way small homie
Feb 8 2008 3:45PM
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VTtreeskier
Posts: 1833 - Karma: 64
Whats the engineering idea behind that, neone know wat its supposed to accomplish
Feb 8 2008 3:55PM
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comeatmebro
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yeah i wonder this too. my mojo 80s have it, i think it looks pretty sick. is the only reason looks, or what?
Feb 8 2008 4:06PM
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Mr.Bishop
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Hah you know I think it just looks super cool.  :)


Feb 8 2008 4:12PM
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djty111
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^ could be that you would have  more edge pressure...
Feb 8 2008 4:45PM
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VTtreeskier
Posts: 1833 - Karma: 64
Damn im really curious now, just look or purpose, ither way its sick but i wana know
Feb 8 2008 4:46PM
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HeathR
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my gotamas have square tails also.
Feb 8 2008 4:50PM
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cobra_commander
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because bending edges sucks.
square off the tips and go with a 3/4 wrap (which is better anyway) and you got a dope ski that is not as hard to hand make.
Also makes the skis stand out more and get the brand noticed.
Feb 8 2008 4:51PM
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VTtreeskier
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Alright, thanks
Feb 8 2008 4:52PM
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BrokenBones
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I was told it was just to make them stand out from other skis, which it has done.
Feb 8 2008 5:57PM
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Blurst
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theyre graphics are badass too moment really stands out
Feb 8 2008 6:03PM
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funk.
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exactly
Feb 8 2008 8:39PM
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josh.
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icon steeler
Feb 8 2008 8:41PM
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SirFryanator
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nordica has some skis with square tails too (enforcer, blower). They are pretty sick.
Feb 8 2008 8:41PM
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LOVEPOW
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my sanouks have swallow tails yeah bitches
Feb 8 2008 8:51PM
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Phantom
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Rossignol? They've got the b104 and whatever with square tails.
Feb 8 2008 11:26PM
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stingfire
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some purists believe the square shape tail releases turns better than rounded tails
Feb 8 2008 11:32PM
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Aenigma
Posts: 11256 - Karma: 428
I think he's just talking about twins with squared tips/tails.

But if you want to open up this can of worms, that's not a belief at all.  A ski with a flat tail will hold an edge way better than any twin tip.  Twins just kind of smear around whereas a good flat tail will lock into a turn and not wash out when you give it power.  I like them way more for hard or variable snow, but it doesn't make much of a difference in powder.
Feb 8 2008 11:43PM
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NCurry
Posts: 490 - Karma: 959
my liberties have squar tips and tails also.....

phil larose pros.
Feb 9 2008 12:13AM
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49rider
Posts: 161 - Karma: 10
shit, i am an icon stealer.  cool to see another dubber on newschoolers anyways.  and ps i'll try and find a little more original icon
Feb 9 2008 4:07AM
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josh.
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you can keep it i kinda want a new one

Feb 9 2008 11:23AM
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wellpreparedrare
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twin tips initiate turns easier and make possible to land switch, but the really fuck with the swing weight, they also do not hold the edge in the tail as well as a traditional flat tail. the squared tips and tails direct more pressure to the ends of the ski than a traditional rounded tip and tail would (not really significantly tho), but the noticeable difference is swing weight. squashed tips and tails are simply easier to spin

probably brand identity as well, but main difference is swing weight

Feb 9 2008 11:56AM
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K.C.Deane
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ya, plus its really easy to grab true tail and true tip. But its just to stand out.
Feb 9 2008 1:05PM
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LPT_311
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How the fuck are they easier to spin? Honestly, I challange you to find a difference. Did you just come up with all of this spur of the moment? even if there was a difference in pressure, or they were for some god unknown reason "easier" to spin, the difference would me so minimal it would be pointless to even argue it.
Its all for looks, don't over analyze  something that is plain as day.
Feb 9 2008 1:51PM
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wellpreparedrare
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i came up with that on the spot, sounded smart enuf to post, so i did, thanx for reading it tho
Feb 9 2008 6:19PM
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.Capn.
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It seems like with the sharrper angle of the tips wouldnt that make it easier for the edges to bust off? Or am I nuts? I have a pair of moments, Ive always just thought about that and never known the answer.
Feb 9 2008 9:50PM
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dave44
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I'm not sure about the square tips affecting swing weight, but the Moments are insanely light (aspen core) and have such low swing weight
Feb 10 2008 1:43AM
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Sharko
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...on a part of the ski that doesn't touch the snow? Nice try
Feb 10 2008 2:03AM
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cobra_commander
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Moment uses a 3/4 wrap so you don't have to worry about it.

And for the record 3/4 wrap is better then 360 wrap. So when companies advertise having full  360 edge wrap, all they are advertising is having skis that are more likely to delam.
Feb 10 2008 2:08AM
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Goody
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Also, for skis like the 4frnt VCT (the older models anyways) that had more of a square tip are easier to put skins on for touring.
Feb 10 2008 2:41AM
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rocktheLPs
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less weight bitch
Feb 10 2008 3:13AM
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