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SkiingLlama
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So, today i was skiing at Mad River Glen (VT), sick pow day btw, me and my friend decide to drop this sick cliff under the lift. apparently it was closed, but it might as well have been open, there was pow everywhere. So we drop it, get the shot, its all dope. Yet apparently some ski patroller saw us when he was on the lift, and reported. We ski to the bottom and get flagged down by a couple of ski patrollers demanding to see our passes. So instead of giving us a warning or telling us never to do that again, they take my multi-mountain pass. so now i cant ski for a few weeks even at my other mountains!
Is this fair? duck one rope, and get screwed out of skiing for the next week.
Feb 7 2008 6:43PM
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Alex_G
Posts: 11902 - Karma: 1,019

Thats really gay.

Feb 7 2008 6:45PM
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notomatoplz
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i thought someone just posted something identicle to this yesterday?


Feb 7 2008 6:45PM
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titsLOL
Posts: 7485 - Karma: 396
sucks they were so strict, but I mean when you ski under a rope you have to accept the fact that you might get your pass pulled. take responsibility for your own actions, ski patrol never asked you to duck a rope.
Feb 7 2008 6:54PM
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SkiingLlama
Posts: 694 - Karma: 5
thats true. but i thought their actions could have been a lot less severe and still got their point across.
it was just outrageous.
Feb 7 2008 6:59PM
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thegreyarea
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You were at Mad River. It's the king of all that is granola. They're super nice until you break the tiniest rule. Then, they turn to pricks.

Sorry to hear that. Get your parents in on it and have them call management. Unless you're over 30, they're not going to take you seriously.
Feb 7 2008 7:00PM
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J.D.
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Absolutely not, unless the same company owns all the mountains it applies to. If they have separate management, they're essentially implementing a breach of contract by the other mountains, which is illegal. They can ban you from THEIR mountain... not the others. That doesn't apply if it's all the same company though. I know nothing about your pass.
Feb 7 2008 7:03PM
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Pirruccio
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look on the bright side
you got the shoot
Feb 7 2008 8:21PM
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2814
Posts: 292 - Karma: 10
About a year ago a patroller caught me duckin the ropes to the Ptarmigan chutes over at louise. He was cool about but said he could have taken my RCR 7 pass from me. That means I would have been screwed over for like 5 mountains.

It depends who owns the mountain. If its like RCR and its a coalition with other mountains, then they can ban you from all of them. It's contract law. Its also the right of any provider of service to refuse it to you. Thus, if all the resorts go together and said they would enforce multi-mountain bans, then thats it.


Sorry to hear about it though. At least you did something sick and did not get hassled for speeding in a family zone. DAMN  FAMILY ZONES!
Feb 7 2008 8:37PM
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SteezePatrol
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with all of this talk of a "shot"...


pics or it didn't happen
Feb 7 2008 8:37PM
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tBatt
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yeah, we wanna see the shot!  
  

Feb 7 2008 9:14PM
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SteevJee
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Same thing happened to me at Snowbird. It was my first offence and my pass got taken for 2 weeks
Feb 7 2008 9:16PM
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tBatt
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think thats bad.. i almost got my pass pulled for attempting to drop a cliff that was like 5 ft tall on the side of an open trail. the cliff wasnt even marked off or anything.

Feb 7 2008 9:17PM
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J-Wallz
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sacrifices for the shot
Feb 7 2008 9:22PM
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Sholte
Posts: 2929 - Karma: 12
ski patrol sometimes piss me off so much. they do gay things like that all the time at my mountain.
Feb 7 2008 9:25PM
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Peach.
Posts: 3879 - Karma: 933
really you ducked the rope you broke the rules. really you cant rant when you ducked a rope. should they have given you a warning? it would have been cool of them but they dont have to. stilll sucks i know
Feb 7 2008 9:26PM
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cobra_commander
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You kids really need to wake the fuck up and realize we close shit for a reason. It is not just because we are scared that you will go jump a cliff and hurt yourself. (although that is part of it). Many cliffs are right above trails that get accessed from a traverse and people may be on the traverse in a spot that is blind from the point on which you commit yourself. Then you can land on them severely hurting them if not killing them (anyone remember what happened to CR). This can land the Resort (and you)  in a shit load of legal trouble.
Other reason that a cliff might be closed are that the landing area could be in danger of sliding, and we have not bombed it yet (so it is closed). Good landings are  prime avalanche trigger zones for various reasons (especially when they have a 150+ lbs person landing on them) This is especially true affter a recent heavy snowfall (like in your case).
So WAKE THE FUCK UP and don't ski in closed areas.
Feb 7 2008 9:32PM
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Sholte
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ok well its not gay, they are just doing there job. but if you live at my mountain, they close everything for no reason. so you have to poach anything worth skiing. the trick is dont get caught.
Feb 7 2008 9:35PM
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samwise
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it seems like ski patrol is cracking down lately....
and quit bitching if it's only for a week. Some kids don't get to ski every day
Feb 7 2008 9:41PM
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ShreddingthaGnar
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You duck a rope, you gamble your pass. Now about that footage..?
Feb 7 2008 9:41PM
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nyjib540
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i dunno man. it was closed. and i've skied there before, and there's a huuge cliff there idk if it's the same one, but i could see why they'd get pissed. they shouldn't've taken your pass. maybe kicked you off the mountain for the day, but not taken your pass. they could've taken handled that much less harshly.
Feb 7 2008 9:41PM
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keystoner1
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what you have to do is do something with the rope or cut in an area that is trees and just say your line in the trees made you ski over there because they got thick or the best line went that way and you didnt know it was the same run. say sorry and that it was an honest mistake.

ie. at keystone earlier this year even though their big mountain sucks there is one run that is pretty fun but the top was closed off. we simply skied about 20 yards down the hill and went into another opening. not closed off and went right across a bridge and straight into that run. ski patrol saw us and said get out after like 7 runs.
Feb 7 2008 9:43PM
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mattster
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haha the lift line poach... thats not a good plan.

unless you dont get caught
Feb 7 2008 9:43PM
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tele_tom
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it's your own fault, that's the rick you take when you duck ropes, now suck it up.
Feb 8 2008 8:49AM
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comeatmebro
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yeah man but you did break the rules so can't really complain. what i hate is they will take your pass for this, but you could do something way worse and get off with a warning...that sucks


my buddy got his pass clipped for spraying a slow sign with snow while GET THIS trying to slow down!! yeah i know fucking crazy. then the guy made fun of me for no poles because i was hiking the park and didn't need poles in my way. he was such a dick.
Feb 8 2008 8:58AM
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FUUUCK
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it is a little harsh compared to the leniency most other mountains demonstrate, but you're really not in the best position to argue whether it's fair or not.
Feb 8 2008 9:04AM
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PASKIINGSUCKS
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Mrg patrol are all ex-german infantry from the 40's, make sure your turns are uber tight and well formed or they will pull your pass for not conforming to their mad river reich. Duh
Feb 8 2008 9:29AM
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BMB
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YA!
Feb 8 2008 1:08PM
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SkiingLlama
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The footage is coming, i got to compress it and all
Feb 8 2008 1:11PM
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grapesoda
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yea its all his fault. what kind of stupid idiot would want to ski some fresh tracks and drop cliffs on a pow day.
Feb 8 2008 1:38PM
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CooksCorner
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I've never understood why ski patrol pulls passes for things like that. I do understand pulling a pass for being a dick to other patrons, or ducking a rope on a run that is under heavy snow making, but pulling a pass because someone wanted to drop a cliff...I just don't see the problem. If someone wants to take that risk, or ski a trail that has poor coverage, let them do it, its their own bad decision. Skiing is about freedom, we all go out there so we can have experiences that would otherwise equate to tickets and fines, so lets just be relaxed and groovy and let people rip!
Feb 8 2008 1:59PM
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skibum193
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billy... who is this we you speak of? you are not on patrol....
Feb 8 2008 2:01PM
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PASKIINGSUCKS
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Because if you get hurt and they have to go rescue you then you are in turn putting their life in danger getting to you on a sketchy trail.

At least that's what the dude at MRG told me when I was getting bitched out like a schoolboy after skiing upper glades while it was roped off. For the record I did what someone above said and passed the closed trailhead only to later cut through the woods to get in. It was spring skiing and by far had the BEST coverage of any trail I was on that day. I swear mad river patrol holds these stashes by closing them and then opening them later for the locals who own the joint.
Feb 8 2008 2:16PM
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Valind
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Dude, if it's closed that means not to go there.  Take speeding, if you speed you get a ticket at times and sometimes you get a warning.  Either way, you are breaking the law.  Skiing out of bounds is kinda like a law for a ski resort.  You cant do it.  I am not sure why a lot of people on here think that they canjust duck under any rope (knowing there not suppost to ) and then cry about it after they get caught and say that its unfair.  They are just doing there job, if you dont liek it then dont break the resort rules, its easy as that.  If it was a sick pow day i am sure that there were plenty of othe5r sick lines to take.  Ski Patrol is there for a reason.  Deal with it.
Feb 8 2008 5:08PM
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Alex_thedroog
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did you say a good pow day in vt???

but learn to take responsibility man, sometimes you have to pay for what you do, it is as simple as that
Feb 8 2008 5:11PM
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moonofendor
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dude fuckin pics or it doesn't matter.
Feb 8 2008 5:50PM
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Flo_Rida_2016
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no but it would be gay if a cop gave you a ticket for going 77 in a 65. Its a comparable situation.
Feb 8 2008 5:55PM
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Nilzor
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this one time, at berkshire east, i jumped over a rope from a legde thing and did a 360. I was in middle school at the time, and it was a fairly big gap.The Ski patrol just looked at me, and kinda grinned. The next run, the rope was down, and the ski patrol never said anything to me.
Feb 8 2008 6:00PM
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sdfjklioeur
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since wen r u ski patrol?
Feb 8 2008 6:02PM
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skibum193
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hahaha, hes not, thats the point. called out TWICE . now you cant just blame me billy
Feb 8 2008 6:05PM
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VT_scratch
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Feb 8 2008 6:21PM
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titsLOL
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would be if it was a highway!
Feb 8 2008 6:26PM
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CooksCorner
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I sympathize with ski-po's point if the terrain is super gnarly and dangerous, but lets face it, VT just doesn't have that kind of skiing. If you're not putting anyones (including your own) life in clear and present danger, then I really think the ski patrol should chill out.

But I'm an anti-regulation sort of dude...it bothers me that anyone has the hubris to tell me what to do with my body. Why shouldn't they mandate that we wear helmets and wrist guards?

I don't want to leave ski areas out to dry either. If you break your ass on a closed trail, you should pay for it, like most resorts already require if you need a rescue in the back country. If you injure yourself on an open trail, then the mountain picks up the tab because it could have been their fault, bad grooming, wire stretched across a run (which happens), just general negligence issues.

Resorts should be there to facilitate the experience of skiing, not define it. Skiing is ultimately about our individual communion with the Earth, in a nature that is free of regulation and artificial order. When business interrupts that dialog,  and prostitutes that sacred experience to turn a buck, I find the lack of humanity (or intelligence) simply appalling.
Feb 8 2008 7:14PM
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RobotTom
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liftline cliffs at MRG are sick. but there are so many good woods lciffs.  why not just go there?
Feb 8 2008 7:14PM
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Peter.
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i want to see this cliff drop now

Feb 8 2008 7:15PM
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seemeski
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Watch it, my dad was a ski patroler at MRG for 15 years or something. They're just doing their job, though the punishment was too harsh. A warning would have been enough and if they pulled your pass they should have just written the date on it saying when you can come back and let you keep it so you can shred elsewhere.

Feb 8 2008 7:38PM
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ballerman
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PICS?????
and too funny if that guy ranting above isn't even a patroller?! billy was it?! i agree with what he's sayin but the way its written is like he is head patroller or something!
Feb 8 2008 7:46PM
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CashmereCat
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i got mine pulled yesterday for skiing switch in the park...
Dec 19 2011 9:55AM
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SSteezle
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you're kidding...
Dec 19 2011 9:59AM
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joris.blanc
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I hope this is a bad joke !!!
Dec 19 2011 10:10AM
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AGOF
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went through this whole thread hoping to see this shot. but i was dissapointed. thread does not deliver
Dec 19 2011 1:36PM
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