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Trouble with 360s. tried search bar

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DaewonS
Posts: 717 - Karma: 104
alright, so like i said, i read through the threads i found using the search bar but couldnt find what i was looking for.

so i keep having trouble with 360s. ive landed a couple but i cant remember what i did differantly from the other failed attempts.

now, i have two questions. first of all- after watching a lot of videos, rather than seeing people "pop" i just see them bring their knees up towards their chest at the lip of the jump. is that right? if i get enough speed will this work?

also, if i do "pop" should i be using my toes more than any other part of my boot? so like essentially jump of the lip with my toes?

i seem to be flailing/getting thrown off balance
any help would be greatly appreciated.
Jan 22 2008 8:04PM
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skithesprings
Posts: 9086 - Karma: 1,349
short and sweet: weight foward, arms in front, pop off your toes, compact in the air, turn your head, spot the landing, stomp the shit out of the jump.
Jan 22 2008 8:07PM
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DaewonS
Posts: 717 - Karma: 104
thats pretty much what i was thinking. thanks for reassuring me.
Jan 22 2008 8:09PM
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Piste.Off
Posts: 11586 - Karma: 1,860
i pop with my feet flat. if i pop on my toes i normally go into a bio rotation and flail out and eat shit.
Jan 22 2008 8:18PM
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SirFryanator
Posts: 11149 - Karma: 1,415
look at my signature.
Jan 22 2008 8:21PM
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Ebanforpeace
Posts: 134 - Karma: 14
Don't think.  DO.
Jan 22 2008 8:23PM
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BigJew
Posts: 6974 - Karma: 79
You want to pop with your toes, because a jump sets you backseat popping on your toes makes up for that and makes you land perfectly, popping off your whole foot will make you land backseat and of course popping of your heels is going to make you land on your ass.
Jan 22 2008 8:23PM
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80*s4eva
Posts: 423 - Karma: 43
I would say that you should "pop" or jump with your weight centered on your skis.  Make your jump/tuck/spin all one fluid motion  as you jump  pull your knees up while looking and turning with your hips and shoulders.  It should be one fluid motion rather than a pop then a spin or a spinny hucky thing in the beginning if you want it to look smooth.
Jan 23 2008 10:24AM
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i.ski.troll.
Posts: 4692 - Karma: 247
true that! thats how i learned corks
May 28 2008 11:21PM
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ChanchoVelez.
Posts: 1029 - Karma: 11
my spinning was off this season...some days were bad for me some were good. like people have been saying dont think too much about it just do it!
May 29 2008 1:15AM
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Ski303
Posts: 468 - Karma: 22
That's what I do kinda....Sometimes I just spin with no set amount I wanna stick......just make sure you spot your landing...
May 29 2008 1:32AM
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Obsessedwski
Posts: 2261 - Karma: 71
make sure you look over your shoulder and lead with your chest/upper body
It helps if you practice on a tramp.
May 29 2008 2:17AM
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Holte
Posts: 10740 - Karma: 7,814
Be in an athletic, balanced stance. Pop off the balls of your feet.

Also, when you're learning new rotations, it helps to be aware of where you're looking as you spin. Some people say to look at the horizon, but I find that I stay on axis best looking slightly down from the horizon.
May 29 2008 3:04AM
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michael_bc
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You probably need to pop more, and look at your landing spot.

You can practice popping by jumping 360s off your feet.


I first learned to do 360s really well after learning 270s onto rails because with 270 on you are forced to keep your eyes on the landing spot at all times. Once you figure out how to spot your landing properly, 3s are a piece of cake.

May 29 2008 7:27AM
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amo
Posts: 6709 - Karma: 1,248

spin your body as you go off the jump. if its the right sized jump you can disregard all of you set up/pop off toes bussiness

May 29 2008 8:05AM
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Gnl.Weirdness
Posts: 3867 - Karma: 20
Best advice that can be given, just keep doing them and you will learn. Took me 3 seasons of throwing them off every jump I hit to finally get them down. I honestly would compare them to learning to ollie on a skateboard, it takes a while to get it flawless, but once you do, every trick after that is just easier.

You will float right into 540's once you understand the 3, and from there you will be able to learn cork and 7's no issue.

Just keep at it, and all the advice here has been good for sure.
May 29 2008 8:55AM
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.KYLE.
Posts: 1891 - Karma: 59
indeed..... I used to have a lot of trouble with them, then I just started popping more and they got a lot more smooth. then the season ended :(
May 29 2008 10:24AM
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JEWbacca
Posts: 1391 - Karma: 30
tries keeping your skis pretty wide apart in the air. (unless your grabbing) but it makes it way easier to learn.
May 29 2008 10:36AM
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aja_kiki
Posts: 2354 - Karma: 51
just put the scaredness part out of your head. if thats a factor...thats usually the only thiing that screws me up. and go a little faster. speed can be your friend.

confidence my friend. good luck!!! :)
May 29 2008 11:10AM
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JMcCallum
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I too was having trouble doing 3s consistently but as a few people said earlier in this thread, you're over analyzing it, just like I was. When you spend time thinking about what you're about to do, you're more likely to mess up. That just seems to be the way it works.

Anyways, a few things you might want to look out for that were causing me troubles, make sure you are IN the air before you start spinning. I always thought that people began their upper body rotation on the lip but when you try this your skis tend to catch and you'll get thrown waaayyy off balance. The main trick to landing 3s is looking over your shoulder, find your landing and stare at it, concentrate on it and your body will naturally follow and level itself out. If you aren't looking at the landing you aren't going to land the trick.

Just keep on throwing them, eventually they get extremely easy and will become a great safety trick to have in your quiver.
May 29 2008 3:18PM
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860
Posts: 2930 - Karma: 166
Just spin, there not hard at all, its just a 3, its not a double cork, just throw your shoulders and hips in like a normal spin and go
May 29 2008 3:57PM
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shabinka
Posts: 743 - Karma: 10
Hey man everyone has to start somewhere.
May 29 2008 4:42PM
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CodyTurner
Posts: 677 - Karma: 86
keep your head up dont look down at your feet.but otherwise just pop and spin.
May 29 2008 5:22PM
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ElliottP
Posts: 606 - Karma: 12
fully agreed. but remember. this is NS so these kids are talking about pencil 3s
May 29 2008 5:38PM
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