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What is better in the park reverse camber or rockered

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shithawks
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well what do u think?
Jan 12 2008 11:57PM
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Silence
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wierd question but i'd say rocker
Jan 13 2008 12:02AM
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Literature
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This man knows what's up.

I still want to try a rockered stiff ski in the park though.
Jan 13 2008 1:15AM
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shithawks
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well what is the difference then like what would be better
Jan 13 2008 1:24AM
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fouldsys
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rockered because it has more ski actually on the ground therefore more stability
Jan 13 2008 1:31AM
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white-rice
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adopt children, not style holmes
Jan 14 2008 1:38AM
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Tinga
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shut up. and yes regular camber skis are the best. why do you think they make them that way?
Jan 14 2008 1:46AM
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XtRemE11
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yeah mabye for regular park riding,  but rockered could be so fun for just jibbing around and even on pretty big jumps.   it totally depends on what you want to do and your own style. 
Jan 14 2008 1:57AM
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Silence
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Both are impractical, but rockered would be less useless than reverse camber..At least with rockered skis you have a bit more contact area on snow

Both would be stupid to get as your only ski in an area without much pow
Jan 14 2008 2:05AM
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dave44
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Rocker is flat underfoot, reverse camber is totally like... banana-like. I'd say Rocker
Jan 14 2008 3:49AM
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Love_Wins.
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Why have most people not realized this yet? Seriously, and rockered skis are SLOWWWWW because of the small contact patch. Awesome for pow jibbing and al that, less than ideal for park.
Jan 14 2008 3:54AM
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emopoppins
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figure out how to ski regular skis in the park first them try some IDEA shit later, when you know what yoru doing.

Jan 14 2008 1:03PM
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jhackbeez
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rocker fo sho
Jan 14 2008 1:05PM
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jack.whelan
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my liberty larose's have gone completely reverse camber. so much fun for playing around on, but annoying if you land slightly backseat they just wash out from underneath you.
Jan 14 2008 2:28PM
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hendriab
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so rockered are the ones where only under the boot touches snow, so whats reverse camber then?  like the pontoons?
Jan 14 2008 2:45PM
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skiP.E.I.
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I thought rockered and reverse camber was the same thing?
Jan 14 2008 3:43PM
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skiRay
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rockered
Jan 14 2008 3:50PM
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skier_boy26
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If you want to try rockered or something in the park, demo a pair, because its a pretty hefty investment.

People do try to say that their skis (90% of the time its Hellbents) work well in the park. That may be true if you're limiting yourself to like 180s and shit, but the best park skis are regular camber, and relatively narrow by current standards (80-85)
Jan 14 2008 4:30PM
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XtRemE11
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yeah like some rockered skis!
Jan 14 2008 9:36PM
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ShadyHillGroup
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the best park ski is a ski that fits your style.....
Jan 14 2008 10:22PM
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skinnylove
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Exactly. I'm one of those kids who will try and tell you that Hellbents are awesome in the park. Because to me they are, I don't do big spins anyway so there just fun to have fun on. And despite some people saying there slow, there so heavy that mine rip. I dunno what everyone else's are like though.

Despite all this, it still feels awesome to shred the park sticks after a few days on the Hellbents.
Jan 14 2008 10:41PM
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kolekaine
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anything but rocker in park.
Jan 14 2008 10:49PM
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ShadyHillGroup
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crazy feeling at first, i always feel like my tips hook into turns, i have to say im a big fan of rockered skis
Jan 14 2008 10:52PM
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ShadyHillGroup
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don't be ignorant you fucking tool, have you ever riden rockered skis, even if you havent you will notice your tips and tails are off of the snow, because of this the skis carve much differently than a normal caber ski. Go ski for a a couple days on a rockered ski, ski them on everything, bumps groomers pow park, everything, then go tell me your firt run back on normal camber skis doesnt feel "wierd"
Jan 14 2008 11:10PM
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_dy-lan_
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from my experience of watching people ride rockered skis in the park, it's not a good IDEA. it's tough to carve into jumps and spin and it's really tough to land, especially if you land backseat. they just don't allow you to do all the things a normal pair of park skis would.
Jan 14 2008 11:16PM
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XtRemE11
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no if you land too backseat you just do a sweet butter out of your trick
Jan 14 2008 11:41PM
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hendriab
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so rockered is when the tips and tails are raised, but reverse camber are liek the pontoons, where the tails are narrower than the tips? some one help my dumb ass out...preferably without yelling at me for being 'ignant
Jan 15 2008 12:05AM
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jack.whelan
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basically, the camber of the ski, is the way it bends when under no stress or force.

if you were to put a pair of gs, slalom or park skis (regular camber) on a table, the tip and tail would touch the table, but the middle of teh ski would be in the air. (creating an upside down u shaped gap between ski and table)

with a pair of rockered skis, i.e. the salomon rocker or the new seth's, the tip will bend off the table, but the tail will be on the table. (creating a wave shaped gap between ski and table)

a reverse cambered ski such as the pontoons, hellbents, or my completely fucked up liberty larose's(!) will only touch the table underfoot, as the tip and tail are raised.

hope that helps and i hope its right!

Jan 15 2008 12:57PM
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ryanwar6
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it sounded good until you got to the middle of your explanation. here is a corrected version of yours....

basically, the camber of the ski, is the way it bends when under no stress or force.

if you were to put a pair of gs, slalom or park skis (regular camber) on a table, the tip and tail would touch the table, but the middle of the ski would be in the air. (creating an upside down u shaped gap between ski and table)

A reverse camber ski, such as the old Volant Spatula are the exact opposite of this. So in other words, it is a perfect curve, but just in the opposite direction. So only right underfoot will be touching the ground and it will bow up on both sides of that. the problem with this is that when skiing, you have no running length on your skis, therefore ski companies have turned away from this method.

A rockered ski, such as the hellbents, pontoons, EP Pros, ARGs, Seth (mini-rocker) and ETC. are flat underfoot and have the tips and the tail raised at a certain point on the ski. This idea is also used on wakeboards and surfboards. This is much more versatile than reverse camber simply because of the running length which is always in contact with the snow. Therefore pretty much all skis you will see on the market today which you may be tempted to call "reverse camber" are in actuality "rockered".
Jan 15 2008 1:09PM
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bigwhite.steeze
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yeah but if you put the new seths on the table the middle will still be in the air^^. the mini rocker is too small to niotice and you can only see it when you press them together at the waist.its useless
Jan 15 2008 1:10PM
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ShadyHillGroup
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you're an idiot thats all i have to say, when you ride a ski does your weight push the ski flat against the snow, or does it always curve up.....its pushed flat against the snow, the point of the seths is so they can still charge all mountain, but the tips and tails have a little "early rise" so they float better than a normal cambered ski, this isnt the best explination, but the "mini rocker" isnt useless
Jan 15 2008 2:53PM
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quebecfreestyler
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do you really need pop for rails tho???

 I like to mess around in the park a lot and I believe rockered skis can be sick for that and  to get creative on  jumps that dosnt need you to carry a lot of speed.
 
Jan 15 2008 3:23PM
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deezy.
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rockered
Jan 15 2008 3:27PM
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theronjeremie
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personally, reverse camber and rockered skis aren't fun at all to skis on grommers runs except in the spring time

but they are so much fun in the pow
Jan 15 2008 3:38PM
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ECfreeski3
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serious question? of course you do
Jan 15 2008 6:58PM
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