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Invader Weight?

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LIL_WAT
Posts: 1900 - Karma: 475
hi NS 

Just wondering how the weight of the 07/08 171cm Invader compares with the 05/06 164cm Public Enemy. I am currently on the PE wondering if it is worth purchasing the Invader. I like the PE but it is a tad heavy and the Invader looks like a really sick ski with the butterzone, ollieband etc. I notice the Invader is a light ski but it is longer so does anybody know the weights of both skis?
Dec 12 2007 6:27PM
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borskee
Posts: 796 - Karma: 127
i have this years invaders and i love them
nice, soft and light
id say they would be a bit lighter than the PE because the PE is meant for all mountain and the Invader is for park and in park you want a lighter ski
Dec 12 2007 6:41PM
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Inbred_Redneck
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The Invader is one of the lightest skis out there.  Id def go for it and buy it, come this spring i'm gonna get me a pair.
Dec 12 2007 7:07PM
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lineskier2334
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i have them in a 171 and mounted them with solly z12s and they are incredibly light
Dec 12 2007 9:07PM
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LIL_WAT
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thanks heaps guys, but does anybody have any exact figures on their weights (w/out bindings)?
Dec 12 2007 9:13PM
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LIL_WAT
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bumpage
Dec 13 2007 1:50AM
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LIL_WAT
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anyone

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Dec 14 2007 4:25AM
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Inbred_Redneck
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Yes, they are lighter than pretty much all of K2s skis...
Dec 14 2007 8:24AM
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SkierX
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Apples to Oranges comparison.

PE's are an all-mountain twin that is heavy, damp and stiffer.

The Invader is a park-specific ski that is very soft, flexy and ultra-light.

Now don't get me wrong, the Invader can still kill it on groomers and is a lot of fun there, but it struggles and is a lot of work to ski in soft snow (mainly because of the centermount).

But yes, Invaders are incredibly light. I have a buddy with the grey Scratch FS in 174cm and my 178cm Invaders (with the same bindings) are much lighter.
Dec 14 2007 9:28AM
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davyjones
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i have salomon foils right now...is the invader a good second pair?
Dec 14 2007 10:37AM
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FUUUCK
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invaders are much lighter than PE's, its night and day.
Dec 14 2007 10:51AM
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720skiguy
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the invader is a light ski

and it's negligable anyways, get over it
Dec 14 2007 11:08AM
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DaLiNeRiDEr21
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depends
Dec 14 2007 11:14AM
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SkierX
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You were doing great until you added that last line there, which is both false info, and presented in a dickhead manner.

Ski weight DOES matter. A heavier ski will have a much higher swing weight which will affect quick turns and spins, but will be much more stable and damp at higher speeds.
Dec 14 2007 11:17AM
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720skiguy
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it's not that big of a deal, you see pep etc... spinning 9's on hellbent's.

it's even worse when people worry about binding weight, especially when it comes down to grams. yea it's at the center of the ski so it doesn't affect swing weight, but it's still not that big of a deal.
Dec 14 2007 11:21AM
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SkierX
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Binding weight is insignificant.

Saying "Pep spins 9's on 'Bents, so ski weight means nothing" is ignorant.

There's a reason Pep is a pro athlete.
Dec 14 2007 11:27AM
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davyjones
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i want a more park based ski but still do decent skiing in case i decide to do a few runs
Dec 15 2007 11:00PM
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LIL_WAT
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Would the Invaders in 171cm be heavier or lighter than Atomic Urban Triplets 06/07 in 166cm?
Dec 17 2007 4:09AM
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AntifreezeSteeze
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Hopefully I'll get some invaders as my first set-up
Dec 17 2007 7:15AM
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skiminnesota
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winner!
Dec 17 2007 10:50AM
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Celone
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super light.... i got them at 161 and they are almost as light as my chronic 133s from like 3 years ago. 
Dec 17 2007 11:03AM
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