No offense but most of the 'hardcore' bands people posted are not really hardcore, thrice? boy sets fire? Rise Against...haha TREE sucks. AFI's old stuff is far more hardcore than Tree can hope to be. Real hardcore, American Nightmare, Skycamefalling, Zao, The Hope Conspiracy, Ten Yard Fight, Panic, Over My Dead Body, Carry On, Shai Hulud, Death By Stereo, Reach The Sky, Bane, In My Eyes, Embrace Today, Overcome, Strongarm, Figure Four, Right Brigade, Shark Attack, Death Threat...most really good hardcore bands are either straightedge or have members who are edge. So just search edge websites to find some great bands. Peace Joe