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Axium vs. axial

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ski_powpow
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Ive ridden both axial and axium bindings and I do realize that the axial is a burlier heel piece but at the same time the axium wasn't so bad, you just crank them up and I didn't have many problems. I think people are to rugged on the axium bindings just crank them up to 10 or so and your good to go. As well as long as your not to heavy there ok.
Nov 25 2007 9:25PM
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bigwhite.steeze
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meh, i always considered them a kids binding
Nov 25 2007 9:27PM
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ski_powpow
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a din of 11 isnt really a kids binding
Nov 25 2007 9:28PM
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ski_powpow
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on tramdock the 110's get a pretty solid review
Nov 25 2007 9:32PM
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Skipig25
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same. They just don't seem as solid. I have always thought of them as the younger brother or the axial
Nov 25 2007 9:38PM
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ski_powpow
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there defiantly not as solid but at the same time if you put them up to 10 there gonna respond similar to an axial binding on a din of 10
Nov 25 2007 9:45PM
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bigwhite.steeze
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soo they work...what are you tryin to get at here...
Nov 25 2007 9:57PM
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Silence
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Retention may be the same at similar din levels, but I question the durability of the axium's..also what about things like heel elasticity etc
Nov 25 2007 10:06PM
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ski_powpow
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what im trying to get at is that fact that they wont just explode or pop out no matter what, what I'm saying is that they will preform similar to axial bindings and aren't just junk, but of course they aren't as durable
Nov 25 2007 10:34PM
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ski_powpow
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i realize this but what im trying to say is the axium heel pieces don't suck ive seen people riding them everywhere and ive ridden them before and I think that when they are on a din of 9 or 10 or whatever they will work just fine for most things
Nov 25 2007 10:39PM
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Sharko
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well, if the max din is 11, you shouldn't go around riding them at 10 because it will wear out the springs. But yes, I know what you mean, I have some Axium 110s and I like them a lot. They have more plastic than the Axial so they are lighter but less durable. However, I ski pretty hard and I've never been able to crack the things, they are really solid and they grip my boots rock steady. I call them a totally underrated binding.
Nov 25 2007 10:47PM
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ski_powpow
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finally thank you and if they crack rossi might warranty it
Nov 25 2007 10:52PM
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ski_powpow
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^...maybe i dont know what the warranty is like for bindings for them
Nov 25 2007 10:53PM
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Sharko
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You could try it, I've been on the phone with the Rossi people a few times and they were REALLY nice and accommodating. I've actually never heard of anyone trying to warranty a Rossi product, but I bet they would do it in a heartbeat. I bet you'll never crack them though. I got them because I needed something cheap right away and I figured I'd crack them in a few months and then get something more expensive to replace them, but it never happened. I've been riding them ever since and really couldn't be happier with them.
Nov 25 2007 10:56PM
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P.J.S.
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I don't know how many times this needs to be said, but it's NOT TRUE. They test and retest bindings meticulously before actually putting them into production. That means tests at the highest and lowest end of the bindings DIN range. You can ride a binding at it's highest and lowest DIN's without problems.
Nov 25 2007 11:01PM
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Sharko
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Yes you can. But if you leave them that way all season, poof, problems.
Nov 25 2007 11:08PM
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Silence
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I think that was really only an issue with older bindings.. I believe new bindings are tested so they can constantly operate at both extremes of the spring range.

Yes you're right if you leave them maxxed for 10 years you might get an issue, but yeah.
Nov 25 2007 11:17PM
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treesmann
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so my mountain somehow broke my p10s when they did a safety check on them because i am an instructor. (they passed the safety check but the first day i rode them after the check, both heelpieces came only halfway up)

i put my old axium 90s on them, and this binding is a joke. im only 120 lbs but i had to crank them up. i also broke some plastic in the heelpiece so now i dont have breaks on one of the skis
Jan 5 2008 5:24PM
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Dr_Feelgood
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i the axiums broke twice for me so they pretty much are garbage
1) skiing deep pow and back part snapped off
2) brakes stick up and down

after the second break i figured they sucked so i switched to the marker jesters and they are workin fine
Jan 5 2008 6:56PM
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