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Image stabilization in canon

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mackinnon
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so i was talking to a lady at ritz today about lenses and whatever for my 20D.  i asked her about canon lenses with image stabilization and she said that the camera already has image stabilization so a lens with it is unnecessary..  i'm not sure if i totally buy what she was saying.  thoughts? i also shoot a lot of live bands, so i think it'd be nice to have those extra 3 stops the IS gives you...
Nov 13 2007 8:50PM
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skiP.E.I.
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my point and shoot has IS, and having never used a differnt cam. for any length of time, I can't really compare it, but the image stabilizer doesn't seem to be much of a help in lower light.
Nov 13 2007 8:57PM
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estaked
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well, i am not 100% sure on it, but the ritz person is half right. The camera has it, bit i think you need a IS lens to use it.
Nov 13 2007 9:06PM
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Pippin
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it will deff help if your lens has it
Nov 13 2007 10:18PM
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Skipig25
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a 20D definitely does not have an in camera IS that you can use with any lens. IS= an IS lens
Nov 13 2007 10:38PM
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ProducerXXX
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That lady is full of shit. I hate Ritz, the sales people are worthless...they know NOTHING.

But yeah, I have a 20D (which I love) and it doesn't have in-body IS. Canon only offers it in lenses...
Nov 14 2007 12:21AM
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mackinnon
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word. that's what i thought. when she said that i was like "....err yeah"
haha^ yeah, i've had about 1 good experience at ritz with someone knowledgeable.  i got a camera there a few years ago and the salesguy was a tota douche. i was like "...feel free to be remotely nice when i'm dropping $400 that you didn't help me choose at all. enjoy your commission!"
Nov 14 2007 12:52AM
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thewavebb
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I think IS is little too hyped up lately.  It only helps you control camera shake and shooting static objects in lower light.  Nothing a fast lens can solve anyways.

What range lens were you looking for?

~Ben
Nov 14 2007 3:27PM
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mackinnon
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i've been looking at:
Canon EF 24-85mm f/3.5-4.5 USM
Canon EF 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM Lens
Canon EF-S 17-85mm f/4-5.6 IS USM 

Nov 14 2007 7:56PM
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n-o
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if i were you id pitch for a lower aperature.. i just bought a 70 - 200 sigma dg ex 2.8 an i honestly love having a bigger aperature anyways..
Nov 14 2007 8:13PM
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estaked
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Make sure you get "L" series lenses. Look at the 17-40 f4 and 70-200 f4
Nov 14 2007 8:14PM
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thewavebb
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If this is going to be your all around lens, the 17-85 is going to be your best bet.   Its slow though, so don't expect to be able to shoot for shit indoors without a good flash.


Nov 14 2007 8:30PM
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Microcosm
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nope, you need an IS lens for it. I think sony has it built into their dslrs if I'm not mistaken. a lot of point and shoots have it.
Nov 14 2007 9:12PM
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mackinnon
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well i'd take the L lenses into consideration, but they're obscenely expensive for me. i DO want a 2.8, but that automatically bumps the price up to almost $1000...which isn't happening haha.  i shoot a lot of concerts with crappy lighting...so i guess i'll just have to start using an external flash...bah
Nov 14 2007 11:53PM
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thewavebb
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Take a look at the sigma 24-70 2.8 EX.  You can find them used for around 350-400.  I actually have one as a backup to my canon 24-70L.  EX is sigma's "pro" line and optically its a pretty compariable to the canon.  The Autofocus is accurate, but not as fast and silent as the Canon's USM type.  It also uses 82mm size filters, so if you are into filters, that can be a pain.  Overall though, its a rockstar for the price.  Also check out the Sigma 17-70 f/2.8-4.5, they just released this lens with the HSM type autofocus and it would be a good fit for what your doing from the sounds of it. Link: http://www.sigmaphoto.com/lenses/lenses_all_details.asp?id=3327&navigator=6
Nov 15 2007 9:54AM
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ProducerXXX
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I have a Tamron 17-50 2.8 and I love it. Really sharp stopped down and fast too. It's around $400-- check it out.
Nov 15 2007 10:50AM
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mackinnon
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the sigma website says its only for nikon :(
Nov 15 2007 1:28PM
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thewavebb
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oh man thats ghetto, i'm sure it will come over to Canon soon.  HSM is really nice to have, the non-HSM Lens is still good, just not as quick when it comes to AF
Nov 15 2007 2:26PM
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