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Do i need bending fks brake for waist 84 skis??

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ultra414
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i will buy fks 120 and i already got scratch create it 174

 but  i dont know  how wide their brakes

 do i  disassemble ande totally bend??? or just slightly stretch ????

Nov 13 2007 11:37AM
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Aenigma
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The inside diameter of FKS brakes is about 71-72mm, so they'll need a minor bend.  Disassembling to do a total re-bend could be tricky because you'd almost be bending the same spot again, so maybe try mounting them and doing it while they're on the ski?  Obviously be really careful doing this, the housing is fragile.  But I'm not sure, I've never bent them smaller than 100mm.
Nov 13 2007 11:49AM
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lyndon
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Yep, you will need to bend them. I had to bend mine over an 86 waist.I didnt make new bends, I just pulled the original bend out, then made a second bend. I can post a pcture of it would help...
Nov 13 2007 3:19PM
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titsLOL
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you could definitely just pry them out once they're mounted cuz my friend just did that with fks on ski that's like 91 waist and it worked fine. just be gentle and aware of what you're putting pressure on cuz it'd suck to snap your brake
Nov 13 2007 4:18PM
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lyndon
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Yeah, I snapped one of mine. Its best to dis-assemble the heel, take the brake out, and bend it using a vice, broken pole, and a blowtorch.
Nov 13 2007 4:37PM
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skihillraod
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^ a blowtorch?

You are such a joke man, you are a nice guy and try to be helpful but man I am amazed by your post in every single thread on this site.

please do not use a blowtorch on any part of a ski or binding for any reason.

Just mount them as is and modify after mount if needed.  The shop should take care of it for you.

Nov 13 2007 4:53PM
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ultra414
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 i just saw a your porfile picture 
  nice  AR6   n silencer
and fks is on Ar6
AR6's waist is maybe 85mm...
so  i think i can mount  them without  big problem
scratch has 84mm-waist  and  slide side wall
Nov 13 2007 4:57PM
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lyndon
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Amazes me how you can hold a grudge.

Heating the makes it more mallable, hence, easier to bend with less risk of snapping it. You dont need to heat them, I prefer to heat mine.

Also, im trying to help out here, not flip bindings on NS.
Nov 13 2007 6:17PM
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Krush
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dude, i'd use a blowtorch, jsut make sure you dont start to melt the plastic
Nov 13 2007 6:27PM
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LC.
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Ehh, use a heat gun if anything. A blowtorch will melt parts of your binding/skis. Half the guys I've worked with say no heat at all though.
Nov 13 2007 7:28PM
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Aenigma
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Heat is kind of dependent on the situation.  Older brakes are easier to crack and prone to breaking if you bend them cold, but newer brakes are usually fine.  Keep in mind that if you heat them they'll be more brittle once you're done.

And jck8487, I don't think you're in a position to be calling people out as a joke.  Seriously, chill out. 
Nov 13 2007 7:49PM
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lyndon
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Haha, yeah man. I kind of melted the plastic on the bottom of the brake arm, but w/e. I had to bend an old brake. It was silver, and really, really tough. I just heated it lightly and evenly, and it worked great.

Thanks for the support Aenigma. Hes just pissed about when he was trying to flip a pair of bindings on here, and I called him aout about it.
Nov 13 2007 9:16PM
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Pwn.Mode
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just mt them and bend em out i got mine on 84 waist no problems.
Nov 14 2007 12:58AM
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Love_Wins.
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I don't do heat, makes them brittle and easier to snap...you don't really even need a vice, I've bent more than one pair of brakes using a ski pole, and a couples sets of pliers or 'grips...pretty easy actually, never could figure out why everyone threw a fit about it being oh so hard.
Nov 14 2007 5:59AM
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skihillraod
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^ that is correct, more brittle and less bendable, especially if your bend starts to extend outside of the heat zone, but that isn't helpful I guess.

Giving misiniformation or completely wrong information and calling people out is so much more helpful right?  I am not holding a grudge at all, I just think you are stupid and don't know what the fuck you are talking about on any level, and you prove it thread after thread, regardless of the topic!

Nov 14 2007 1:16PM
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whattheshit
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http://forums.tetongravity.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24647

http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/showthread.php?t=83419

Nov 14 2007 2:20PM
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dollabillz
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Take them off, take them apart, and do it right.

If you don't, you'll get exactly what you've got coming.

Watch your fingers.
Nov 14 2007 2:22PM
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Moses
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has anyone here tried this method?
Nov 14 2007 3:28PM
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Moses
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i mean the second method
Nov 14 2007 3:29PM
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LC.
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I've done the take apart method a few times with no problems but reassembly is just a bitch. I'm going to do the vice clamp method with my new 155s. I messaged SuperGaper a few times about it who has used the technique and done essentially the same thing many times by clamping the brake pad on a mounted binding. He said it's far easier than the take apart method and you're fine if you clamp the heel pad as hard as you can. Bend both straight at the same time using old poles. The part where you clamp the arm with a vice grip then bend is genius - localises the force entirely and gives you perfect width by picking the right sized grip. He said he's never used heat and never had a problem.
Nov 14 2007 4:09PM
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Aenigma
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What?  Reassembly is sooooo easy to do.  The only part I don't like about bending brakes is just that part--bending the brake.  The thought of snapping one freaks me out because I don't want to have to find a new one.  Everything else is super easy.
Nov 14 2007 5:12PM
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Love_Wins.
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Exactly, just pop the spring in last and you're golden.
I wouldn't do that method personally, I know people have done it without screwing things up, but it's not worth the risk of cracking the baseplate as far as I'm concerned, I don't mind the disassembly and reassembly.
Nov 15 2007 3:22AM
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