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PLEASE READ IMPORTANT: RCR RESORTS = TERMINATING PARK PROGRAM

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edmonton_skier
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Thursday, November 08, 2007

RESORTS OF THE CANADIAN ROCKIES FOCUSES ON TERRAIN PARK SAFETY WITH AN INDUSTRY-LEADING INITIATIVE

RCR cares deeply about the well-being of all of its guests and takes responsibility for their care very seriously. “We are undertaking an industry-leading initiative,” says Matt Mosteller, Senior Director of Business Development for Resorts of the Canadian Rockies. “All man-made snow jumps will be eliminated from RCR terrain parks this season.”




I sincerely hope that whoever filed the lawsuit that caused this is paralized from the neck down and is in horrible pain

6 fucking world class resorts across canada with amazing parks now have NOTHING for  parks...  there is not ONE park ANYWHERE NEAR US.... is the the EXACT equivilent  of every resort in colorado terminating the park program if you lived there or the same in utah if you lived there...how much would that suck for you guys

If you read this SIGN the RCR petition thread because you knows how much it sucks not to have a single park within a 700 mile radius of you.....

Idiots who hurt themselves ruin it for everyone...




                                                               SIGN THE PETITION

Nov 9 2007 2:05AM
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papasteeze
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Lake Louise Fernie Kimberley Nakiska Mont-Sainte-Anne Stoneham
Nov 9 2007 2:15AM
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GUZ
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dude that blows count this as my signature on the petition
Nov 9 2007 2:18AM
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edmonton_skier
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e- mail MMostell@skircr.com  and asl them to please bring the parks back

Your name (espacialy just your user name) on this page, although apreciated, will not help.
Nov 9 2007 2:22AM
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ski_cartel
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fuck that sucks, Im really disliking the person who filled the lawsuit right now
Nov 9 2007 2:26AM
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Nihiriju
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wow that is horrible......soo ridiculous...how come people can't take responsibilities for themselves? 
Nov 9 2007 2:48AM
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*DrewT*
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I sent an email.

During it I had to tell them that if I wanted to ski big mountain I would go to kicking horse long before any RCR resort.  Other than that I kept it as profesional as I could
Nov 9 2007 3:33AM
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Silence
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wow.

how anti-redbull
Nov 9 2007 4:22AM
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Billiards.
Posts: 6853 - Karma: 816
They are such fucking idiots. I don't live anywhere in this area, but I feel for you kids. That is a poor marketing strategy and half of the amount of people will ski these places.
Nov 9 2007 4:31AM
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KLovelace
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that is so horrible!    i am so sorry,
Nov 9 2007 6:36AM
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Maximumsushi
Posts: 7837 - Karma: 3,351
So the rumors turned out to be true. Wow.

You can still ride rails at Sunshine, right? They're not a RCR, just part of the tri-mountain pass. There goes the neighborhood though. I was debating moving to Banff or to Laax and this settles it. I'm going to Switzerland, I honestly can't believe this happened.

I'm really sorry AB and QC kids.
Nov 9 2007 7:12AM
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Maximumsushi
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Oh, it appears that they won't be getting rid of the rails. They're actually going to be building more. No word on pipe.
Nov 9 2007 7:22AM
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KLovelace
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laax is the best place in the world.  i mean i haven;t been to Canada.. but I've lived in Switzerland, and it pretty much the best country in the world. and Laax has got great park.  Plus a shit ton of other amazing resorts nearby.
Nov 9 2007 7:29AM
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fouldsys
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Fraser Foulds
Nov 9 2007 7:52AM
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4FrntQC
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I don't believe this, its impossible.
Nov 9 2007 8:16AM
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Melvs
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start calling all the mountains and strongly suggesting the implement a park pass instead of closing the jumps down.
Nov 9 2007 9:23AM
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skidemon22
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i sent an email, though i dont live anywehre near there, just cuz this is absurd. good luck guys
Nov 9 2007 9:33AM
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720skiguy
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all of michigan is the same way.
Nov 9 2007 9:38AM
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FapMasterFLEX
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luckily i dont live in canada but either way that really pisses me off. people are so fucking stupid.
Nov 9 2007 10:30AM
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five4ty
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Here's the entire press release.

RESORTS OF THE CANADIAN ROCKIES FOCUSES ON TERRAIN PARK SAFETY WITH AN INDUSTRY-LEADING INITIATIVE

Calgary, AB – November 8, 2007 - Resorts of the Canadian Rockies Inc. (RCR) is recognized as an industry leader in providing world-class guest experiences at its mountain resorts throughout Canada. In doing so, RCR believes that safety in its mountain environments is one of its most important values. Supporting this mandate, RCR is moving in a new direction that will enhance safety at all of its resorts.

RCR cares deeply about the well-being of all of its guests and takes responsibility for their care very seriously. “We are undertaking an industry-leading initiative,” says Matt Mosteller, Senior Director of Business Development for Resorts of the Canadian Rockies. “All man-made snow jumps will be eliminated from RCR terrain parks this season.”

“We have found that one of the main issues that increase the likelihood of serious injury on our mountains is big air,” says Mosteller. “When we are making decisions about safety at our resorts, the big jumps in the terrain parks always come into the equation. We decided to make a change.”

Continues Mosteller, “We are committed to providing our guests with a safe experience at our mountains. We realize that this change may disappoint some guests who regularly use these man-made jump features. However, we believe we have a strong moral obligation to not compromise the safety of our guests.”

At the same time, RCR will be making an increased investment in new rails and features for RCR’s terrain parks. For example, this year’s RCR TELUS Park at Lake Louise Mountain Resort features the highest-ever investment in new, state-of-the-art rail features that will cater to a wide variety of ages and abilities. RCR will have rail parks this season at Lake Louise Mountain Resort, Fernie Alpine Resort and Nakiska.

With the new rail park format, RCR will host a Rail Jam Series that will take place at Lake Louise Mountain Resort, Fernie Alpine Resort and Nakiska. Features used in the Rail Jam Series will be suitable for a high level of competition, while also adhering to safe practices.

For the past three seasons, RCR has also worked hard on developing its family-friendly terrain parks. These unique parks, separate from the larger parks, feature small rails, boxes and rollers, encouraging learning, safety and fun in a non-intimidating environment. The feedback on these parks has been positive and they will continue to develop at all of the resorts.

Nov 9 2007 10:33AM
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danbrown
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Here is the petition:    http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/SnowparkRCR/index.htm


There are more than 100,000 users on Newschoolers.com, this thing should blow up
Nov 9 2007 11:02AM
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papasteeze
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word..  when writing to complain always offer a solution.  state the benefits, outline the guesstimated work to institute the solution.   Park passes require people to focus on exactly what they are getting themselves signed up for.  It thins the "weeds"  and reduces the liklihood for weekend warrior accidents. 

Since they are focused on jumps, then focus on the people who are getting seriously hurt and why, then try and eliminate the reason as much as possible by offering an solution.  I bet that most of the traumatic injuries are from inexperinced or infrequent snow people.  I don't really know about that, I am just guessing.

The funny part about thier new focus on rails is that they have "jumps" in front of them.  oh yeah that makes sense.  Lets hit a jump and land onto the steel sideways, but eliminate the jumps with snow landings.
Nov 9 2007 11:52AM
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JCsteezy
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that suks so bad
Nov 9 2007 11:53AM
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Capurnicus
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Yeah so retarded.
Nov 9 2007 12:10PM
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Skipig25
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my letter. don't copy it, he doesn't want 34 of the same thing, but write your own:

Please don’t close the parks. It’s where we live. Especially on the east coast, at Mont Sainte Anne, with the lack of big mountain skiing, terrain parks are what keep the teenage demographic interested in the sport. I don’t feel that it is right for you to punish an entire generation of skiers for the stupid mistakes of a few individuals. Instead, I am suggesting that you implement a park pass system. For a small fee ($20) and a single day park ethics and safety training session, people could acquire a park pass that would allow them to ski in the terrain parks. This is a great idea, because not only does it keep unsafe, uneducated people and little children out of harm’s way, but it creates revenue that can be used to upgrade park features or to help pay for staff to manage the terrain. It would be quite a simple system, if you want to ski park, you get a park pass. There would be park staff around to check passes on a regular basis, and keep people who may hurt themselves or others out of the park. Instead of closing down parks across Canada, please evaluate other options, it would mean a lot to the people who spend time there.

Thank You,
Ben Sawyer


PS. If you shut it down, can I come up and get that giant Kokanee box?
Nov 9 2007 12:12PM
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wolfmansbro
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does anyone have a list of what resorts this will affect and what ones are not affected. I now its the RCR resorts but which ones are those
Nov 9 2007 1:35PM
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Avifarer
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lake louise, fernie, nakiska, kimberley, mt. st anne and some other quebec one
Nov 9 2007 1:43PM
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Karcher
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wow i hate people like that. I will totally email them. if its possible, i sign this petition on line. but ill still email them
Nov 9 2007 1:45PM
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eheath
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Signed the petition.
Nov 9 2007 2:20PM
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rodenski5
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The most galling part is where they label this as an "industry-leading initiative."  Last time I checked, having no jumps meant your resort was way, way behind the rest of the industry...
Nov 9 2007 2:35PM
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yelsel
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I find this to be complete bullshit and frankly, if you're having "moral" issues with man made big jumps then, I dont know, maybe implement a park pass? So inturn whomever went to receive a park pass would have to sign a waiver basically saying if you yoked yourself up you cant place blame on the mountain/company/park crew etc. Wouldnt that make more sense rather than taking parks out and losing a core group of skiers that mostly frequent that mountain for the park itself?
Nov 9 2007 2:38PM
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edmonton_skier
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Please contact matt : His email is mmosteller@skircr.com, phone 403-256-8473 ext 3323     and voice  your opinion to him with positive arguments

Nov 9 2007 2:48PM
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NickSteezy
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Matt Mosteller, Senior Director of Business Development for Resorts of the Canadian Rockies

I got his contact information SOOO...... Please email him with a positive arguement that they shouldn't remove the jumps from these resorts

I say go right to the source hahaha

His email is mmosteller@skircr.com, phone 403-256-8473 ext 3323.
Nov 9 2007 2:48PM
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OCTO_TRUCKDRIVER
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JOIN THE FACEBOOK GROUP. keep rcr parks open
Nov 9 2007 3:31PM
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Sewardo
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Signed the petition already.  This sucks!
Nov 9 2007 3:36PM
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TWoods
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In response to your idea that closing the man-made jumps will increase the safety of your guests.  I see this as my responsibility to help you understand the mistake you are making.


This initiative is not only bad for the whole industry, it is not based in reason. In this letter, I will explain both

Firstly, I would like to remind you that skiing, a sport that was turned into a stereotypical recreational sport for the older population was revived in teh late 90s by the advent of twin-tip skis and the new scene of "newschool freestyle" skiing in the parks that were originally reserved for snowboarders. Snowboarding was the new "cool" thing and reached the youth demographic. These days, in terrain parks all over America (i can't speak for Canada, but that's beside the point) there are nearly equal amount of skiers and snowboarders. In some places, such as Park City and other Utah resorts, there are actually MORE skiers than snowboarders on any given day.

The fact is that this movement has given new life to our sport. Contests such as the ICER AIR in San Francisco show that it is important - if you are not familiar with the event, man made snow is trucked into a large sports stadium, where a jump is made, showcasing skiing and snowboarding to thousands upon thousands of people. It was a event created by olympic medalist Johnny Mosely, a skier.

I would also like to remind you that hundreds of kids enjoy the parks... in fact, much of the headliners of the "newschool freestyle" movement came from canada, and Quebec especially.

The idea is not based on sound reason. You state that you wish to eliminate the jumps for the "safety" of your customers. However, if the customers decide to use the jumps, it is THEM putting their own safety at risk. The majority of people who use these snowparks understand the risks involved, and use the parks safely.
I'm not sure that you have based your opinion on the recent lawsuit involving the Washington resort. However I would like to remind you that the American justice system is flawed and sypathetic to unjust suits. I have reviewed the case and he should not have won his lawsuit.

In the end, this is bad buissness for you. People will believe that you don't support the industry, and you will lose all of the buisness that the youth ski and snowboard market would bring.




Nov 9 2007 3:47PM
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TWoods
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Don't steal my words, but use my ideas if you want
Nov 9 2007 3:48PM
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A_T_K
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oh shit chek dis email i just wrote str8 gold son

As an avid freeskier from Summit County, Colorado, it pains me to see that there
will be no man-made jumps at the RCR resorts for the upcoming season. When
someone goes skiing, they must assume the skiers responsibility code, which
entails not skiing outside your limits. I share the same perspective as many
other riders, in that anybody who would like to ski or ride in the terrain park
needs to take a written and practical skills test, to ensure that the riders
know their physical limits when riding the park. Winter Park/Mary Jane was one
of the first resorts to take such an initiative, they began requiring a special
park permit to hit the 60ft+ jumps and more advanced rails. Personally, I love
this decision and I support it fully. It keeps the beginner riders from getting
into situations that they cannot appropriately handle, and it gives the advanced
riders the peace of mind knowing that somebody won't be stopped on the landing
in a blind-spot, amongst other common mistakes made by beginning park riders.
I hope that you can use this opportunity to begin such a movement in
Canada, as it would be a great loss for many of my friends north of the border.
Nov 9 2007 4:15PM
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KeegLove
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im so fucking happy that our ski hill is family owned because than we dont have to deal with gay shit like this.. our ski hill doesnt have a park eithter though ahaha...so it doesnt really matter though.. and due kimberly without a park leaves absolutly nuthing... just gayers trying to ski big mountain
Nov 9 2007 4:23PM
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stompdat
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My condolences guys.

God! Who sues ski resorts! Screw em all!
Nov 9 2007 4:40PM
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chapz
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wowwwww. they better fucking take that lawsuit away, there are some crazy jibbers in that area of quebec.
Nov 9 2007 5:00PM
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scott-skis
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dude that fuckin sucks, i hope i wont affect wher i am
Nov 9 2007 5:33PM
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albatross.
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haha leading edge? I guarantee all non RCR mountains within reasonable distance will take FULL advantage of the pull even one jump has on guests now. Whistler/Blackcomb is probably exchanging high fives around the office,

baiscally - RCR alienating so many customers is going to make the competitors quite happy i would assume.
Nov 9 2007 5:42PM
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CTD
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somebody get the kids email who filed the lawsuit. who cares if the cunt is paralyzed, because you fuck up gives you no right to ruin it for everyone else.
Nov 9 2007 5:46PM
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Bab.
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fuck man stoneham would suck even more without jumps. i hope theyll change their mind
Nov 9 2007 6:12PM
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Charley.
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


that is stupid

if its true I think im gonna cry

fuck
Nov 9 2007 6:17PM
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bailer
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I sent the letter. FUCK RCR!!! They are one of the dumbest fuckin companies ive ever delt with...
Nov 9 2007 7:19PM
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d-rok
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This is probably the worst news ever. I live right next to Mont-sainte-anne and I ski there close to 100 days a year. I mean what is skiing without any jumps. Why should thousands of people suffer for the act of one  person who took an irresponsible decision and died  and his DUMBASS parents for suiing RCR. I mean is your child gonna come back to life if you get a few millions, are you gonna feel better about yourself for making the rest of us suffer. What's the problem with a park pass. I mean lets get honest who are the people most likely to injure them selves, the people who ski every weekend or the tourists who ski once a year and go huck themselves off anything. With a park pass these problemns are none existant. People are aware of the risks and have to assume the consequences.
Nov 9 2007 8:17PM
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ColbyV
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petition signed

i hate issues like this - we get blamed for all the stupid people out there
Nov 9 2007 8:28PM
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Caleb_F
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Consider it signed.  Best of luck...
Nov 9 2007 8:52PM
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Krush
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the same exact thing is happening in the LP of Michigan. but since there not some huge resorts, i guess its no big deal to anyone else...
Nov 9 2007 9:04PM
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