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Armada T-hall 07/08 - Anybody ridden it?

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sindrejibb
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Have anybody ridden the Armada T-hall 07/08 yet? I'm really interested to hear how they perform!

And please, dont't say: "well, they look dope, buy 'em"
Oct 24 2007 10:45AM
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sindrejibb
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Oct 24 2007 2:34PM
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Tha_Grouch
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Same as last years.
Oct 24 2007 2:52PM
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strongmark
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well, they look dumb, dont buy em!
Oct 24 2007 2:53PM
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sindrejibb
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nobody?

no, they aren't exactly same as last year? I thought they were changed?
Oct 25 2007 8:13AM
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lt.milo
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CRAZY
Oct 25 2007 8:27AM
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sindrejibb
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what do you mean?
Oct 25 2007 8:36AM
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RtC.
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I'm pretty sure well 100% sure that they are exactly the same as last years man, exact same shape/sidecut/flex/snap/butteryness to them, if you can find last years then buy them, you'll be saving yourself a loada money. For instance, porters were selling them for 300bones a while back, which is crazy good.
they are a soft ski when new, which gets real soft after a week on the snow. i found them stable enough though on 50fters, though do feel a bit washy backseat landings on big spins. on rails they are kings, nice pop and if paired with the right binding then they're fairly light.
They are defitely unchanged so if you rode last years and liked them, then definitely buy them.

now say thank you
Oct 25 2007 1:05PM
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sindrejibb
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Thank you. But I've emailed Armada, and they don't say the same. Please don't say things you don't know. I could believe you!

"The 0708 THall model will differ from the 0607 model, but only slightly.The 0708 model will be lighter in the tip and tail and be stiffer, and more stable, under boot compared to the current model. This was made possible byre-engineering our core to incorporate lighter wood in the tip/tail, and stronger, more dense wood under boot. This is the biggest change to the THall for next season."


I believe this will affect the ski a little bit. So my question was if anyone had ridden them and could say antyhing about them.

I think I will believe... you or armada? you or armada? hmm... armada.
Oct 26 2007 10:09AM
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japanada
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we have both in the shop, and the 07/08 ones are a little stiffer. it seems that the tips and tails are the same, but the stiffness underfoot extends further away form the heel/toe pieces.
Oct 26 2007 10:13AM
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tjski
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i have not ridden them but flexing them they feel a little stiffer than last years...the pipe cleaners are soft though.
Oct 26 2007 10:29AM
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Dustin.
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Good post, sounds like it will be almost the same ski, just a little stiffer.
Oct 26 2007 10:40AM
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sindrejibb
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nice! they will get em in my local shop soon too, so I can see them in real. but, haven't anybody ridden them?
Oct 26 2007 12:11PM
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OCTO_TRUCKDRIVER
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hahaha. thats like something salomon would say if you asked has the 1080 gun changed in the past 6 years ?
Oct 26 2007 2:04PM
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sindrejibb
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ok..?
Oct 26 2007 3:16PM
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Pklink04
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I have a pair but alas, there is no snow in Minnesota yet
Oct 26 2007 3:26PM
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sindrejibb
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ok, tell us if you can get a ride on them! :P
Oct 26 2007 3:28PM
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sindrejibb
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Pretty sure I gonna buy them now. Maybe mount bindings 1 cm back.

But which bindings would you choose? I can choose any markers or looks.
Oct 30 2007 2:57PM
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skidemon22
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looks, andyou should get the crazy color jibs, or just some jet black ones (or dare i say p15's...if you can?)
Oct 30 2007 4:40PM
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sindrejibb
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P15? what's that? I don't need anything over DIN 12. I weigh 41 kg (90 lbs.)
I will maybe run at DIN 5 or something.
Oct 31 2007 10:49AM
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CFSGabe
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I've ridden them and I love 'em, so I got a pair, I don't know if I would say more stiff that last year but more stable. Love'n  the ski, of course looks great and either going to put on a 4FRNT binding or look jib-wide,(brushed black look) go for it, sick skis

Oct 31 2007 11:15AM
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sindrejibb
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NICE!

Why wide?
Oct 31 2007 11:17AM
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sindrejibb
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Wow! This years PX 12 Jib's looks so sick!

But can somebody please tell me the difference between them? PX 12, PX 12 Jib, PX 12 Jib Ti etc.
I understand that the wide models just have wider brakes.

Oct 31 2007 11:24AM
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sindrejibb
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I'm so stoked on the T-halls now! The shop will get them any time now.
But what's the difference between the PX12 and the PX12 Titanium? Which one is lighter? cheaper? more durable?

And.. any more thoughts on the skis? happy to hear it all!
Nov 1 2007 3:41PM
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Bo_bot9
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Such a gay and boring graphic. each year they get worse. but last years was sick
Nov 1 2007 3:53PM
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sindrejibb
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I like the graphics. I don't think they are boring, I think they are clean.
Nov 1 2007 4:24PM
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Pwn.Mode
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Good for park poppy on jumps, but anything else they're unresponsive and i didnt really like them. I'd get the AR6 anyday over it. i think freeskier agreeed but i cant really remember.

Nov 1 2007 4:32PM
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ktollefson_1080
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thats like one thing..

u really think that extra gram of weight is gonna make a big difference?
Nov 1 2007 6:11PM
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wils.
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ask t-hall i think he has ridden those not sure tho
Nov 1 2007 6:14PM
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sindrejibb
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Haha, have never seen him ride them. No, I'm pretty sure I will not feel the weight-difference. But my shop don't have the last years and I get it cheaper anyways.
Nov 2 2007 3:10AM
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sindrejibb
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I've now ordered some T-halls in length 161 (I'm 158). And some Look PX12 Jib Ti Wide bindings in brushed black.

Should I go for true centre? I've ridden 1-2 cms back before, and I think that's bettet, but the T-halls may be different. Are they better to ride at true center?

Do you think the binding will be OK? I'm very lightweight, are they too heavy for me?

And please tell me more about the T-halls! :)
Nov 17 2007 1:39PM
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RtC.
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I told you about the Thalss but apparently i'm wrong. Even though i rode them...
Armada claim to have made the ski stiffer, and i thought this when I got them, but after 10or so days on the snow they became just as soft as last years. I love 'em.

The bindings will be absolutely fine man, one of the best cheaper bindngs out there, and very popular.

The tanners feel nice mounted a center, but it really comes down to what you're riding primarily. However, you will not notice too much difference between 0 and -2.
But true is nice
Nov 17 2007 2:12PM
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sindrejibb
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Thanks, dude!

Is the PX12 really a "cheaper binding"?
Nov 17 2007 2:31PM
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WoodyE
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yo bro thats the exact same setup i jus got (161 with the brushed black binders) its soo sexy and its gonna be so dank
Nov 17 2007 2:48PM
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sindrejibb
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OK!

Are the setup heavy?
Nov 17 2007 3:03PM
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sindrejibb
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And what's the difference between the titanium PX12 and the non-titanium?
Nov 17 2007 3:06PM
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RtC.
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Well, in relation to like the jester, it's cheap, but not a pricepoint/budget binding, maybe i mean reasonabley priced.
They really aren't that heavy man, you'll be fine with them.
I think the TI ones have more metal in the toe piece (though i could be wrong here) and they are slighty lighter.
Nov 17 2007 3:11PM
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paulbunyan
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bahaha nice post does he even ride his own skis?i respect him thou
Nov 17 2007 3:14PM
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lt.milo
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haha exactly
Nov 18 2007 3:00PM
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sindrejibb
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Are the Ti bindings really lighter? Do you KNOW this?
Nov 20 2007 2:27AM
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sindrejibb
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Yeah! I have now bought the T-hall 161 and the Look PX12 Ti Jib Wide brushed black binding! Sick!
Together with the Dalbello Il Moro, this winter is going to kill it!!!!
Nov 22 2007 1:31PM
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jack.whelan
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px12 = flimsy
px12 Ti = lighter, much more durable due to the metal componants, more expensive.

i KNOW this, i have had both.
Nov 22 2007 1:56PM
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sindrejibb
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Well, if the Ti is lighter than the normal one, the normal one have to be wayyyy heavy! I think the Ti is heavy. No way I'm riding a heavier binding than that.
Nov 22 2007 2:22PM
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