are sweet. I have mine at core and they may be a little awkward to ski but they are so soft so its fun to just dick around on them of moguls and stuff. They are definately terrible in powder and when you bomb stuff you fear for your life but that just adds to the excitment. I personally dont mind them and i use them for my groomer and park skis while i have big trubs for more all mountain serious powder. Im east coast by the way. 170 6 2