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Taking Tricks from Tramps to Snow
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I have been going to this trampoline place for like the last few weeks everyday, and I can now stomp fronts, backs and rodeo 7's and 9's like everytime... I was wondering how much harder it is to take these tricks to skis and onto jumps, I feel really confident about my rodeos too but I have never even tried a backflip on the snow cause of hard east coast landings, any advice?
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Yeah I am wondering the same thing. I want to try a backflip this season. I can do them all of the time with ease on the tramp, but how much harder is it on the snow, in the pipe and off tables. Also, what about flairs in the pipe? I can do them on the tramp too very easily.
-Randy
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its not that different, flatspins feel the same on a tramp as on snow
just make sure u can do stuff on a tramp super easy before u try it on snow
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i could never do backs on a tramp but landed them on snow. im from the east too, just wait for a powder day and build a kicker and huck your meat. once you get the feel for it take it to the park and show the ladies that you're hardcore
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Backflips are all about confidence. One thing to remember is to wait until you are off of the jump before you start your rotation. if not, it can be a disaster, such as skis flying off or landing on your back. believe me, its happened to me.
As far as technicality of a backflip, they are pretty simple. I learned to do backflips on snow before i did them on a tramp which is a little odd. If you understand the rotation, it should be pretty easy for you. Its just hard to grow the ballz to throw it, especially on hard landings. Once you do it, you wont be so scared, even if you wreck. YOu will feel alot more confident once you try it. Wear a helmet if that helps you from thinking about wrecking. Ive wrecked many times trying backs and never really gotten hurt too bad, maybe just knocked around a bit.
There is no reason to rush out and try one though on the slopes. That is how you get hurt bad. Be patient and be comfortable on your skis, the right jump will find you sooner or later.
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yeah next powder day i am ditching school and heading to the hills!!! anyone have advice for throwing rodeos?
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I have the confidence, I just don't want to be overconfident.
-Randy
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all that is really different is compensating the couple degrees difference in the takeoff of the jump and the degree of the landing coming back in as well as you usually have to rotate the trick slower because you have more hang time on big jumps...if you practice on powder booters and then take it to the park, you will find it much easier for yourself.
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well let's see.
On snow you're ankles are locked, you are moving forward at a fast rate, you have weights on your feet, you have to create the pop, if you are wearing a bigger helmet than your eyesight is fairly limited, you have gear in your way - big poofy jacket, poles. etc., and unlike a trampoline, if you land 45 or 90 degrees too much or too little you will probably eat shit.
But yeah, besides all that.. it's the exact same!
The point I'm trying to make is that depsite what everyone is telling you.. it's not the same
Yeah, the rotation of a flatspin does feel very similiar to when you are on the tramp, but there are SO MANY more variables involved now.
Realize it's not the same, understand the variables.
If it was the exact same, don't you think everyone would be throwing dspin 1080's or misty-9's like they can on the trampoline?
I'm not trying to scare you, it's a matter of commitment and I'm sure you probably could pull off a backflip on snow if you committed yourself.
Do not be dissapointed when you find out that snow is not as easy as a tramp.
There are similarities once you are in the air - it's all the same. but there are a whole bunch of new variables before you end up in the air.
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alright just think of it this way the beginning of the jump (right where it starts to go up) think of that as the bottom of your bounce on the trampoline and then the lip of the jump as right where your realising from the trampoline, if you think of it that way you can do anything on snow that you can do on a tramp. and if your good at backflips on a tramp there so easy on the snow. Easier then a 360.
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its much different i think way easier on tramp your rodeo 9 or whatever the fuck you said is gona be like a rodeo 3 maybe lol
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so what your saying is that anyone who can do a rodeo 7 does rodeo 1440's on tramps?
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ok this is my take on this matter..
i learned backflips my first year skiing back 3 years ago. and they were a lot different then on tramp b/c of the angle of take off and what not plus the foward momentum. i learned misty 5's, sketchy yes but i learned to rotation with skis and 2 seasons later i can stomp them with 7's its def a matter of comittment and shit. with flairs in the pipe now thats a different story i throw a really fucked up sideflip and i converted that into the pipe to learn flairs ona really soft spring day at mt snow (east coast) ive never tried a front b/c those scare me with half the rotation being blind but ive seen enough and people say theier real easy just as said by everyone else the key is commitment if you throw it half ass and dont commit your prolly gonna end up hurt. just eb safe and huck at the right times and make sure your head is in the game.
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just commit to the trick...if you go into the trick feeling as good as you do tyring it on the tramp it will go over way better.
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the main difference that i noticed with a backflip on snow was the sensation of movin forward. you are watchin for the landing and you see a blur of white and there it is, at least thats what it was first like for me. a backflip is really all about commitment. my first back i wasnt commited all that well and i landed on me head
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yeah i can do d spins on the tramp every time with anygrab so i think i'm going to try this year
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theres not that much of a difference. just dont be a pussy about backflips because you live on the east. i was doin them off jumps less than 2 feet tall 3 or 4 years ago. backs are just like on trampoline. they are super easy. theres not much of a diference with rodeos either
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Sweet. Should I try a flair in the pipe first or a backflip off a table?
-Randy
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probably a backflip. seems like it would be easier. i cant do um just thats what i hear from everybody.
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I have never done them but it seems like you should try and find a privaet spot and build your own jump tha thas tons of lip and maybe put some soft snow on the lnading till you get confident enough to try it on a table
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also if you build your own jump, make sure that the landing is steep, it is a lot safer that way. a foot of pow wouldn't hert either.
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there is a big diffrence for me, i can Rodeo on skis but not on tramp, backs are only thing that fells the same.
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I guess it's all going to be relative for the person.
It will be easier for some and harder for others.
But you will not know until you try.
Maybe for some people there feels like only a little difference, but there are still many other variables involved.
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i say practicea loop on tramp and try a flair in the pipe it feels the same
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Sounds cool.. I will try one when its a nice day (ie powder or softer snow) and not a lot of people around to watch hah. I have the confidence though.
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all i have to say is remmeber to pop! on a tramp you are pushing off with your toes, but you dont really think about it, you naturally do it. in order to set any trick smoothly(especially backs, other wise they will look ugly or you will stall) you need to pop off the jump.
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You will be better off stopming a trick on tramp before you try it on snow. This is becasue now your body has muscle memory. Or your body knows how to throw the trick. Just rtemember that concentration is underated!
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snow somehow like jacked my post you bastard... haha ohhh well, i one day when i just dont give a shit im gonna try everything ive been wanting to
What the hell were they doing with a car on the moon?... havent they gone far enough?
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Yeah now that you mentioned it, I did jack this haha. Sorry about that.
-Randy
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it feels the same once ur in the air but the take off is completely different, so make sure u wait for the right day with that soft landing
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don't know if you even read this thread anymore, but just thought id say backflips are the easiest trick out there, just go off of the jump and throw your arms up and make sure you look up and back, if you do all that, you'll rotate it now problem, they're easier than 360's
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