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The hardness of choise (park ski)

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Ozziba
Posts: 39 - Karma: 10
Well I need new park skis for this winter.
I'm 5'11" tall and 147 lbs heavy.
As I live in Finland we don't have basicly anything else worth skiing exept park so that's what I do 90%-95% of my time while I'm on skis. Of course I sometimes go powder or all mountain but that's very rarely. About stiffnes the scale of it would be something like 5/10 - 8/10 if 10 is stiff and 0 is spaghetti.
About the size of the ski I'm not sure which wouldbe best 175 or 180? If I get long skis they're more stable but the spins will turn slower, and the skis are harder to controll. If I get short skis it's easy to spin and controll but i's not so stable. :P What to do? :D
I started newschool skiing last winter so I'm kinda a beginner. I can do 360 with some grabs and also rail some easy rails. I'm really going to ski alot this year and practise hard.

I've been looking these 7 skis, say what you think about them and tell me which would be good size :P


K2 Public Enemy: http://www.k2skis.com/skis/ski.asp?ProductID=24

Völkl Wall: http://www.volkl.com/ski/freeskiing_wall.html

Line Anthem: http://www.lineskis.com/#/skis/freestyle/park/anthem

Momemt Reno Jib: http://www.momentskis.com/

Armada AR6: http://www.armadaskis.com/product/skis/AR6.php

Dynastar Toruble Maker: http://www.dynastar.com/product.php?id_seg=&id_product=592&id_dyn_category=2&id_dyn_segment=23&acturub=1

Rossignol Scratch GTHO: http://www.rossignol.com/


What do you think I should pick and in what size? :D

Oct 6 2007 6:49AM
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Public_Maverick
Posts: 3255 - Karma: 11
if you are looking for a stable ski with minimal swing weight, scratch fs/ghetto might be good

but why no salomon skis?
Oct 6 2007 9:30AM
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Bodeau.
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Personally I like the trouble makers out of those skis. The only drawback of the trouble maker is their base isnt so strong on rails. As for size, its really gonna be what you like better, but I personally like bigger skis a lot better just because i feel more comfortable under foot.
Oct 6 2007 9:35AM
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dave44
Posts: 11052 - Karma: 113
Looks like you've slimmed it down to a good selection of all-round park skis.

You can't go wrong with 'em. This year's Troublemakers look promising, the AR6's have always performed, and Rossi had some great skis last year, so hopefully the Ghetto is an upgrade.
Oct 6 2007 10:03AM
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Ozziba
Posts: 39 - Karma: 10
So basicly all those skis are about the same, pick the best graph and go ski? :D

So none of those really smacks out the rest of the group? :P

Oct 6 2007 3:51PM
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SHampson
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im about the same kind of skier as you just started park really, and i got some centermounted ar6's, skied them one day at mount hood in the summer and i can't wait to ski them this winter.
Oct 6 2007 3:54PM
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Kopacz
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i looked at the freeskier magazine buyer guide and they said all those skis were an excellent choice.
but mostly the rossi, ar6 and walls stood out for me.
Oct 6 2007 3:54PM
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Caveman.
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i have had 4 pair of dynastars in my day (2 troublemakers, 2 concepts) and the edges on all of them sucked. other than that they werefun skis
Oct 6 2007 3:55PM
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Ozziba
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At the moment AR6, Anthem and Wall are leading. :D Unless someone brings some new info. :P
Oct 6 2007 3:56PM
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Kopacz
Posts: 295 - Karma: 67
i have thr same problem as you i cant pick which skis to get :D

im still thinking aobut either the rossi scracth ghettos or volkl walls.
Oct 6 2007 4:05PM
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teamsleep
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out of those three the anthems are the softest
but if you like soft and buttery i'd go for those in the largest size, 178 ithink
Oct 6 2007 4:22PM
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nothanks
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180 should be your size.

Armada or Moment.
Oct 6 2007 4:28PM
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Ozziba
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Hmm. Soft would be nice too if it can handle some big jumps aswell.


Oct 6 2007 4:31PM
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pbandj
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anthems, did you look into chronics by chance?
Oct 6 2007 5:11PM
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bigwhite.steeze
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moments are looking promising for this year
Oct 6 2007 5:16PM
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Ozziba
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Yeah. So AR6, Reno Jib, Wall. What are the stiffnes scale of those? I'm not sure is the AR6 100% symmetric but does it matter that much even in switch ridin'?
Oct 6 2007 5:29PM
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Ozziba
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Aren't those like 70% park 30% all mtn?
Oct 6 2007 5:33PM
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SnowMedic
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Thats what i got.
Oct 6 2007 5:43PM
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pbandj
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yeah they softened them up a bit this year, they're not noodles but you can actually butter on them now
Oct 6 2007 5:46PM
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Ozziba
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Yeah. Now Reno Jib and Wall are leading. :D But seeya later. I need some sleep. :P
Oct 6 2007 5:50PM
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Thomson.
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Can't go wrong with Anthems or Walls.
Oct 6 2007 6:12PM
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t-roy
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without reading the other posts, i think you would be good with a 175cm ski and something probly 85mm wide under the boot. fatter or skinnier depending on what you like. personally i like fatties for park. i think you would also be really happy with the rossi ghetto's.  good luck
Oct 6 2007 7:04PM
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emopoppins
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178 invader
177 STL
175 oakley osama pros
Oct 7 2007 12:12AM
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poofartpee
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out of ur choices I would narrow it down to the volkl wall and AR6
go wall if ur sure ur going to centre mount and if u know u want a pretty stiff ski
AR6 if u dont plan to centre mounting and think the wall is too stiff
Oct 7 2007 12:30AM
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bigwhite.steeze
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1 more for reno jib
Oct 7 2007 1:14AM
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Bepo
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Yep, don't get the AR6's if you want to center mount (which you should), go with the walls instead.  Mounting an unsymmetrical ski like the AR6 doesn't work the same as a symmetrical ski, it messes with the side cut and performance.  The walls are super sick skis, you can't go wrong with them.
Oct 7 2007 1:42AM
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Ozziba
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Yeah. Volkl Wall 177 or Moment Reno Jib 181. Both are symmetrical and I do plan to mount center.
I'd like to know which is stiffer wall or reno jib? Also the Anthems 178 are looking nice but darn they perhaps are too soft.

Fuck this is hard... :D
Oct 7 2007 4:14AM
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dave44
Posts: 11052 - Karma: 113

The Reno Jib are stiff, for sure. I'm not sure how they compare to the Wall, though.

All the skis are good, but each have their good and bad points.

Oct 7 2007 8:14AM
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jhackbeez
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the wall is really stiff too
Oct 7 2007 8:20AM
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dave44
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If you go for the Reno Jib, go 181, because 171 is way too small.

Dynastar's edges have always been a weak point.

The AR6's have always been popular, and the Wall's are new for this year, after some good skis from Volkl last year.
Oct 7 2007 8:29AM
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wils.
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get some 180 spks or dumonts
Oct 7 2007 9:17AM
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Ozziba
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Not a big fan of salomon. :P
Oct 7 2007 9:37AM
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wils.
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well you missing out on alot
Oct 7 2007 10:28AM
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SnowMedic
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They are not really that stiff more like a rossi scratch flex.
Oct 7 2007 12:55PM
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TonyTheTiger
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I'd say go for 181 scratches gtho, and mount them smack right in the middle.
I'ts what I ride and it's lovely cute.
Oct 7 2007 1:01PM
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dave44
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Stiff enough to ski all mountain.
Oct 7 2007 1:49PM
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Kopacz
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do you life really stiff skis? softer skis? or in the middle of them.

Oct 7 2007 4:10PM
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SnowMedic
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Definitely! They are good all over.

I personally like a tough enough ski that can handel any aspect of the park or the entire mountain.
Oct 7 2007 8:08PM
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Steezy_Street
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I got the Ar6 this season but il be doin some other things other than park as well (80% park). THe wall sounds like an awesome park ski cause its symetrical and got killer ratings in Freeskier (if you take that into account)
Oct 7 2007 9:18PM
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Charley.
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dude, you should totally get the head JO pro in 178!
Oct 7 2007 9:27PM
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Ozziba
Posts: 39 - Karma: 10
Hmm atm Moment Reno Jib (181cm) is sounding the best. Only thing that it might me hard and complicated to get them to Finland. :O Also the company is new and the shipping and all when ye buy from internet.

Volkl Walls are sounding great too, think I'm gonna get these as I can buy these from a shop, if the Moment skis are too hard to get. :F
Oct 8 2007 2:05AM
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dave44
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Well, $420 USD is around 300 Euros... + VAT (I'm assuming 15% here) = 345 Euros (not including shipping).

Although, the Åland Islands in Finland are exempt of taxes. ;P


I'm sure you can get the Volkl Walls much easier
Oct 8 2007 3:19AM
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Ryanvdonk
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id suggest chronics, seems to be what you're looking for.
Oct 8 2007 3:38AM
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G.R.E.G.
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yo man the anthem is really heavy... i was at my shop and picked up the 178 anthems in one hand and then picked up the 185 ARVs and the anthems were sooooo heavy compared to the larger ARV..they seem like sick skis with sick ass flex but they are heavy which would possibly slow down your spins depending on how strong of a skier u are

Oct 8 2007 10:13AM
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