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What up, ive got some barely used pipe cleaners in a 181. I contacted Armada about these skis. They told me that these are the ones that the pro team used before they were produced for the public. The skis are way beefier than normal. They have a reinforced edge, and a corbon stringer for more pop. You will also noticed that the base and topsheet is different. This is because they werent finsished designing it yet. The skis are way thicker in many aspects. The edge is thicker and just the whole ski is thicker than a normal pipe cleaner. Also, these pipe cleaners are skinnier than the 176 that my friend has. THese skis were only riden in pipe, and were mounted with rossi fks. THere is only one small chip in the topsheet. They never touched a rail. Im looking for around 325 shipped but i will negotiate and take trades.