Dude I remember when you made that thread about using Hellbents on the ec man:
https://www.newschoolers.com/web/forums/readthread/thread_id/292410/
If you want them, just get em. Pep, Andy and Benchetler use those in the park and the rockered tip/tail would make them ski shorter anyways. Stop waiting for ns's approval, just do yo thing man.