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Ds91260
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This wont get a good debate or anything cause theres no bible bashing adults or anything on here, but i dont understand the whole abstenence is cool thing, the only advantages i can see are u wont catch any stds, but thats really the only one, or maybe pregnancy, but they got pills n shit for that, i mean, and im quoting a movie, but no one lays on their death bed and thinks 'damn, i wish i had, had less sex'
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Aug 23 2003 11:15PM
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cj
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this dont have to do with std but i got with a girl the other night that told me afterwards that she just got over some throat fuckdness thing...now my throat is sore, stupid whore, ima killa boar, then go to the store, and eat throat losanges...then eat some more.

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Aug 23 2003 11:19PM
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mikee
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haha, the last thing was funny. But yeha abstenence is definitly kind of odd. I think its definitly just something that has come from societeies general view on sex. Im quite sure religion spawned all these closed minded views on sex as well as ideas like abstenence. When somethings drilled into your mind you dont think otherwise. If god says its wrong (does he?) then I guess in past times in history people have been very religious and those notions just stuck with society. I dont know, I think I answered a different question :S

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Aug 23 2003 11:19PM
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Ds91260
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well ull hear people say that its in the bible that sex is only for makin babies and any other time its a sin, but the bible is full of bull shit today, and it most likely always has been
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Aug 23 2003 11:21PM
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seward
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kinda a touchy subject.

i personally dont see the reason for it, as the frist guy mention there is concerns of stds and yes they do have protection and other means to avoid pregnancy or stds. but its something you gotta respect cause it is super dangerous.

you cant bash people that believe adstanance is the right thing to do cause its just something they beleive or want to work towards.


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Aug 23 2003 11:24PM
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Ds91260
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^thats true, u cant bash, but if the only reason theyre doin it is cause they think sex is bad n shit, thats stupid
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Aug 23 2003 11:27PM
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jtski
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yeah the bible is pretty lame

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Aug 23 2003 11:35PM
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sugarloaf
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'the bible is pretty lame' are you serious? I just got back from church
Aug 23 2003 11:39PM
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What_A_Wookie
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its just based on building a long lasting marriage...look at premarital sex now and then, then look at the number of divorces
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Aug 23 2003 11:50PM
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^exactly.

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Aug 23 2003 11:58PM
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Ds91260
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explain it to me, i dont get ya
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Aug 23 2003 11:59PM
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mikee
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yeah, I dont understand what premarital sex has to do with divorce?? Please put it under more intense light.

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Aug 24 2003 12:55AM
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FreshCoast
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The only reason there are more divorces now is because it is more socially acceptable now then 'back in the day'. Plus before frequent divorces the people weren't any happier or more loyal to their mates then they are today. You ever read about all mistresses the the famous people had?
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Aug 24 2003 1:08AM
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Ice-Is-Scary
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answer this question for me. Is it still abstenance is your triying to get laid and can't?


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Aug 24 2003 1:44AM
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What_A_Wookie
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(mind the fact im on painkillers) but i guess its just a couple who have kept one thing for their entire life to give it away to one person, signifies a real level of dedication, not jumping into things pre-maturely, and also how are you gonna know what your sex life could be like? you never got with anyone else...but thats about it, staying abstinent, to me, would just seem to display a higher level of committment to the marriae
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Aug 24 2003 1:50AM
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crimson1080
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the bible is lame....lamelamelame. just lame. with a capital E. fuck, i dont even know why it's a capital E, thats just what THEY told me. anyways, fuck, lets not get into a religion thing here. hmm, i guessi should write somethin about the actual topic. I think everyone should try something before they rock it, like dope or alcohol or anything else, because alot of people get a really bad impression from religion or school or whatever, and i think that happens in the case of sex alot. its nothin bad, and i think if nature made it just for us to procreate it wouldnt be quite so fun. I don't think our ancestors did it to make babies, do you? sex is like reading, except with less exercise. you do it for pleasure. AND it builds social skills. come on. give me one logical thing bad about it as long as you take 'precautions'

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Aug 24 2003 1:51AM
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What_A_Wookie
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i dont think that qualifies as abstinence, its jsut pathetic, but you could use it as an excuse, is that one of those 'hypothetical questions'?

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Aug 24 2003 1:53AM
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Ds91260
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i dont think jumping into sex 'prematurely' affects anything, u may become accustomed to fuckin around, but if when u get married u cant control yourself you arnt ready for the commitment anyway, but habits form i guess, but about the bible being 'lame' its been changed tons of times, its been changed because people begin to have different values over time, for all we know the bible was just a big made up play or somthin, well never know
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Aug 24 2003 2:25AM
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sherLocke
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crimson1080 has got it right for sure. if we were only meant to have sex for procreation then an orgasm would burn or something, not feel good. humans and dolphins are the only animals that have sex for pleasure, not just makin babies. and dolphins inteligence levels are right next to ours so were doin somethin right. if something feels good why deny yourself that feeling? thats why the bible is such shit cuz everything that is fun, feels good, or makes your life better is all criticized negatively and looked down upon. for all we know, we only live once so live it up and dont have regrets, just be smart about it.
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Aug 24 2003 2:47AM
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sugarloaf
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I'm so fucking confused. all I got out of this was you guys think the bible is lame, prematurtal sex causes some divorces (which could or could not be true), and you tink the bible shuns all 'fun' things. fuck man, I belive in the bible and I still have hellafun times. maybe you guys are mormons? whatever, I think abstinence is a good thing if you want to do it, but otherwise why not give sex a try? feels good doesnt it?
Aug 24 2003 3:11AM
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What_A_Wookie
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ummm...if our orgasm burned t be here...it has to be enjoyablewe would prolly not be here
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Aug 24 2003 3:22AM
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1080enemy
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LIke one guy above me said. You can't bash it till you've tried it. How many of you ripping on the bible have actually sat down and read the book. People in the bible had sex all the time if you read the right parts. There is no where in the bible that it says 'sex is bad'. Sex is great. the bible says that. think about it. sex is great. I think it is worth waiting for.

And for there being no good reason for abstinance. You are an idiot if thats what you think. Let me think.... um (I won't even touch the bible again, stds, meaning possible infirtility, meaning no kids ever, and you penis not working. then there is always death. Not enough for you yet? ok. pregnancy. It can be a great thing at the right time, but if you are 16 and have a baby your life is no longer your own. forget about finishing high school you've gotta look after your kid, or work to pay for it. If you are a guy you could just walk away and say it is her responsability. but then you are basically scum. blah balh blah, nobody is reading this anymore, so I will go now. and to finish of. sex is good, but is it worth it? thats your call.
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Aug 24 2003 3:44AM
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What_A_Wookie
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wherwheres your view coming form,?
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Aug 24 2003 3:50AM
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1080enemy
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ummm.... the 20 years I've lived. the things I've done. does it really matter?
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Aug 24 2003 3:56AM
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it can....you arg/experiences tend to affect your convictions
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Aug 24 2003 4:09AM
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tan
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if you're smart about it , its cool


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Aug 24 2003 4:49AM
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Ds91260
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thats what i was gonna say man
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Aug 24 2003 5:21AM
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auski
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What_A_Wookie: 'its just based on building a long lasting marriage...look at premarital sex now and then, then look at the number of divorces'

Apparently there are more 21 year old virgins today than there were in 1950 (as a % of the population) so you really can't link premarital sex to divorce rates. Especially when the idea is that they aren't married to the people they had premarital sex with anyway.
Aug 24 2003 6:04AM
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Capurnicus
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umm yes he can...that has nothing to do with anything

the way i see it...is well if you haven't had sex until your wedding night...then its that much better, and it would have value in the fact that you've only had sex with one person you're whole life, something that you've only shared with one person ever..knowing you're the only one can be a really strong tie between two people

i'm not full out supporting it, what i think doesn't really matter, i'm just giving you your answer to ' why would someone'

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Aug 24 2003 6:10AM
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Phrosty
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I think sex should be mandatory.


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Aug 24 2003 6:12AM
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ThisAngelicRage
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I don't really think marriage has a lot to do withe relationships at all. I think it's your emotional connection and emotional maturity of the relationship. If you are emotionally ready to have sex- go for it. I think the marriage/pre-marital stuff goes kind of in the same book as the 'age is just a number' thing, it's more mental than 'we have been together for 1 year' 'we are married' 'I met you at a bar and I am drunk'




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Aug 24 2003 6:17AM
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Phrosty
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o yeah drunk girls, two nights ago, the same night I lost my pipe like I said in another post I was lying on the floor of a bathroom because I was puking my guts out. And this hot girl jamie came in and started making out with me and shit, and all I could think was wtf is she doing, I'm covered in vomit, Like if she had just puked I wouldn't even touch her and I'm a horny dude. Girls are fucking gross.


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Aug 24 2003 6:24AM
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JFerg
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i think that marages without premarital sex last longer because by the time u get married, ure not bored of the sex already. with premarital sex, u get bored of the sex by the time ure married. and like so many ppl have already said, if u take the precautions, make sure ure safe about then y not have sex? if it feels good do it.

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Aug 24 2003 6:34AM
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also, without premarital sex, you're less likely to fuck around with other people around you because you aren't practiced in going around messing with everybody at school or whatever. Also, pat mentioned it being more special if you wait for your wedding night. I've talked to so many people and heard from so many people who waited, and they said that it really is that much more special knowing that only they share those special moments. I've also heard from a girl who's getting married to a guy who has had premarital sex, and she says that it's so difficult to accept that it's not only their special moments because the guy's already done it. Plus she says it's hard to trust that he won't do it with other women. Yep, and nowhere in the bible does it say sex is bad, 1080enemy, if I'm right said this. It says that sex is good, and feels good. What it does say though, is that sex before marriage is bad. yep, I have more to say on this, but my mind is drawing a blank right now.

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Aug 24 2003 7:16AM
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P-JO
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uh, I didn't really feel like reading all the other posts but one of my buddies is going out with this girl who is all aboot abstenance. She told me she wants to wait until shes married, so it will be special, but I got ten bucks she fucks someone in college, if not senior year in Highschool.




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Aug 24 2003 7:21AM
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d-spin89
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well first off, have never drunk alcohol, gotten high, had sex, ect. but i personally get offended when people are baching the bible. people need to learn how to accept people own choices. personaly i willl definently wait for mairrage to have sex and it is all my choice, not something that the bible said or my parents, i just feel that that is the right way.


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Aug 24 2003 9:43AM
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well there is no 'right way', there's the 'the ideal' and then everything else, Ideally if I fell in love with some girl and married her, it would be nice to look back and say that she was your first and blah blah blah, but it all depends on you staying with the person you marry and obstaining, you just gotta ask yourself is it worth it? and will it last if the sex with your partner is horrible? Sure you can love someone but when you love them you love everything, including sex. Abstenence is really like going into marriage blind, and that wasn't so bad before - nobody talked about sex, now it's normal to talk about it/express yourself, so if you're having incredibly bad sex, it can be something that will make your marriage go bad. You just got to ask yourself, is it worth the risk and lack of enjoyment for that good feeling you'll get when you look back? I say no.
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Aug 24 2003 9:56AM
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Ds91260
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mikes always got a really good fuckin point somehow, i say mike for president
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Aug 24 2003 9:59AM
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gretegirl
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How could your sex be horrible in a marriage. You get to practice with that one person for 30+ years.
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Aug 24 2003 12:27PM
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Tiffy
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Abstenance is someone's own decision because it's important to them, you can't bash on that. Nor can you bash on people being religous/the bible. - if you don't believe, that's cool, it's your thing, but to those who do, let them believe, it's theirs. If you think the bible is lame, think that, just keep it to yourself. If you think the bible is the only way, think that, just keep it to yourself.
Reasons for abstenance. Personally I see sex as something special, something you share with someone you love. Pregnancy is a huge worry for the chicks, guys don't seem to understand that. Sure sure, taking the pill is the simple solution, but can all of you men tell me that you would remember to to take it at the exact same time, everyday, regardless of what your doing and remember to take it? No, you wouldn't. Condoms, theres a good answer - no, they break, tear, and can be defective. Maybe it doesn't seem like a big deal to your guys, but the idea of some little thing going wrong with sex and the contraceptives is really fuckin scarey. Do you want just one time to screw up the rest of your life with a baby? Sure, there's always adoption and abortion, those are simple answers - no, chicks are super emotional, I know girls that have gone through this, when they were prego they have major horomones and the idea of killing what is living inside them is so scarey to them or the idea of giving away their own child?? - that seems insane to them.
And Mike, if the sex sucks it can ruin the marriage? Well if you've waited your whole life for one person, what are you going to have to compare it to? You won't know the difference between someone who is really good and then your significant other.
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Aug 24 2003 4:37PM
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With the pregnancy scares i've ahd with gf, i wish i had chosen abstinence.....i've never...came inside of her, but still.(precum can do it to) STD's? i don't have to worry

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Aug 24 2003 4:52PM
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To the person who knows the chick who can't get over the fact that her boyfriend (or whatever he is) has slept with other people...well tell her she needs to fucking get over it. Up until the point where they met he had NO idea she even existed, which means that none of his prior actions should have any bearing on their current affairs.

Secondly, she says she doesn't know if he'll go fuck someone else...uumm well there is a little thing called TRUST and if she thinks that just because he had sex before her he's going to cheat on her, well i would definitely tell her she is not ready to get married or whatever the situation is.

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Aug 24 2003 5:18PM
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pregnancy is not something to joke about and anyone that has had to go through an abortion with your girlfriend knows exactly what im talking about

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Aug 24 2003 5:30PM
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yup it's fucking brutal, but both of us even though we're long broken up will agree that it was not only the best decision for us at the time, but really the only choice.

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Aug 24 2003 5:55PM
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rsd
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instead of worrying about the whole std thing, just get checked for std's, then if you have them, you will know not to have sex, otherwise, dont bother with abstenence
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Aug 24 2003 7:53PM
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seward
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yea shits not funny

but for the guy that said people beleive in adstanence to build long lasting marriages? thats bull poo.
marriages arent based 100% on sex, and if you do base your marriage on that your retarded. Premarital sex has nothing to do with divorces. Its not like you wake up and say hey i have seen my wifes front butt 5 times in the last 2 days, i want a divorce.
there are so many divorces cause their fucking simple to get, and people are too lazt to try and work shit out. plus not as many people are as closely tied to religion as the used to be so its not seen as a really bad thing to get a divorce


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Aug 24 2003 8:40PM
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sherLocke
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i think its real funny how some people started changing their stand on the subject towards the end of the thread, what are you people a bunch of sheep, have you no opinions of your own?

sex at any stage in life is fine. do you think when the first humans were alive they had weddings? there is no evidence to support this but i HIGHLY doubt it. now do you think because they didnt have weddings they didnt have sex? i dont think so, or else i wouldnt be sittin here typing this.

sex feels good, its natural to have sex when you feel its right, thats the way its supposed to be. mabye thats why humans are the most dominant species on the planet today. the first humans didnt have any forms of contraception and i bet they fucked as much as our society does today. so we multiplyed rapidly and that could be one of the many reasons we have come out on top, (ONE not the only reason.)

Now as a society we have become more aware of the bad side effects of sex, but there are also ways of protecting against the side effects. many of which are highly effective. so if you want to bang your brains out before the big, 'i do' then knock yourself out. just be smart and youll be fine and dont let some numbers and statistics on STD's and teen pregnencies own you.

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Aug 25 2003 2:40AM
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cj
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where does anal fit in?

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Aug 25 2003 3:07AM
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Lanemeyers
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hahahaha, I think small bouts of abstinence are great for a relationship.... no sex for a month and then you get together and go crazy....

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Aug 25 2003 3:24PM
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seward
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^ this guy knows whats going on

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Aug 25 2003 3:28PM
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if you fuck a dead chick is it still abstinence?

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