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i went thru their site and picked up some ninja's but it was some bullshit hassle. dude said it shouldnt take more than a couple weeks (max) to ship. waited a month and 1/2 while emailing them and they were saying that the shipment got lost and that they needed information that they already had in the first place. ended up taking almost 3 months before i actually had them in my hands. but long story short, if you're into huge threads, blowin cash, waitin for a long time, and riding the customer support team for 3 months, u should roll with avalaan. shit is sick tho....