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if we dont attack Iran by early october i will close this account. i have not seen so much "static" i guess it could be called ever before, alot of the sources are from inside the military. also judging by the recent resignations and the speeches bush has been making lately i almost gurantee this will happen.
uhhhhhh are you serious? the support of china and russia, the massive army, the technolodgy... its like iraq on steroids. i hope im wrong but i dont think i am
the massive army? completely useless! it would never make it to US soil. we have to be sneak attacked or NATO will blow the entire country off the map before they are even close to the US.
Oh ya, Iran is next alright. If you haven't been blessed enough to read the oh so invigorating "Rebuilding America's Defenses", you're missing out. The idea was, Iraq to get rid of Saddam, then Iran. Funniest thing is, the people who wrote it also wrote how it would be hard to rally the amiercan public behind such a thing without a 'Pear Harbor like event".
So I'd say thus far, it's 2/2 and looking to go a solid 3/3.
your a fool. we don't have the means to open another front on our so called "war on terror" our military is already over extended as it is. Don't even try to say we would have a draft because we would have to legitimately declare war on Iran and that will never happen considering bush can't declare war only congress can. There is no support in the US for a another war. If bush even mentioned any military action against Iran it would create an uproar in Washington and around the country. Basically bush no longer holds the power to go to war because the American people wont be mislead again. so yah your wrong.
Guys I've got to get behind on Eleven on this one. Bush is really pushing for war with Iran... it's really scary. Iran is like Iraq on steroids because well... their army is SOLEY for the purpose of defense. We will be so fucked if we do.
i certainly do agree with skierman that we are fucked if we attack them. If you look at what they did during the Iran-Iraq war they got teenage boys to join the military and these boys were told the fundamentalist bullshit about they would become martyrs. they gave all the kids plastic keys to heaven and sent millions of them out to fight. so they would have there conventional militarily which is somewhat respectable but they would also have a huge army of boys who want to die. These boys are sent out without weapons and they are told to storm enemy offfesive posions and they are told to take the enemies weapons as they go. while a bunch of unarmed teenagers might not sound serious is is when you skimpily cant kill them all. Iraq soldiers were running out of ammunition from killing them. Now after our offensive is over run by these kids Iran will role in with the conventional milliarty and be able to put a legitimate fight. not to mention this time these kids may be armed with IED's.
that not just what i think im quoting one of our generals. look at iraq our troops were supposed to be on much shorter tours of duty there but instead they have been there way longer than they were supposed to be before they got relived. Fine maybe we are not over extended yet but any other conflict will certainly over extend us.
ok if anyone in denver knows who gunny Bob is, he said he can almost gurantee that we commit against Iran with airstrikes based on what his military friends have said. he was a gunnery sargent in the marines and he is no liberal, he is an open Bush supporter so coming from him is pretty shocking. he's a radio guy btw, check out 850koa.com for info. and im hearing shit like this everywhere.
Holy fuck I hope not. If this does come true I think it is evidence that our system of seperation of powers has completely failed, as opposed to it being only ALMOST totally nonexistent right now.
iran is a ticking time bomb, it think. it's an eery situation. i really don't know what we should do, but i don't think we should wait until something really bad happens. america is really vulnerable. look at those two USF students with the "fireworks".
Iran is a ticking time bomb? America is really vulnerable? What the fuck you talking about? Sorry about that, I'm not being mean to you, but honestly, what are you talking about?
But when Time magazine runs a cover story about how the army is streched too thin, how can you argue? Im not saying Time is always 100% spot on but the story was legit and you know your army can only occupy so many country before its streched so thin it has no influence anywhere...
Right, but look at it this way... we pull out of Afghanistan, use troops that have come back from tours in Iraq, and you got the reserves along with troops slowing being pulled out of Iraq as a part of operation leave-iraq-as-a-fucking-mess, and bam. You've got you initial surge into Iran.
also its more likely we would either nuke or just bomb the shit out of them. I would be surprised if had anything other then some spec ops on the ground
So you guys will be using troops on there 5th deployment, pulling out of both Afganhistan and Iraq before you fix anything, to mount an attack against a 3rd nation?
With your worn out troops and your awesome (sarcaism meter to the max) track record of attacking and occuplying countries, you're going into Iran? HAHAHAHA
I knew you guys were stupid...but fuck...this takes the cake.
How can any american be proud of themselves in this day and age? Please, enlighten me as to why your so fucking proud still?
I'm not for any war, but to think it's not going to happen because our army is stretched thin is really dumb. To stop a war from happening, you first got to realize that it CAN happen. Believe me when I say that Iran is not a threat, and we should leave them the fuck alone.