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Question to everyone: Do you believe that "Idea" has changed the route of skiing by creating a whole new genre and basically revived the purity of the sport which seems to have been lost these past years?
it might be, its pretty crazy how in one year skiing progressed that much in that way. my snowboarder friend watched it and he said, skiing just went from being way behind snowboarding in backcountry jibbing to way ahead of snowboarding in a year. and its true.
Idea documents a change that's been happening for a little while now, and presents it as an IDEA to a wider audience. I think it might be a milestone in time, this is where the two directions in which newschool skiing was heading finally part. This is creative skiing.
Some will hate, some will imitate, but hopefully most will stop seeing skiing as a bag of tricks you need to practice to impress, and start seeing it as something ridiculously fun with so many opportunities to be unique. This movie is excellent. It will be the soul of skiing for the season to come, no doubt.
it DIDN't just happen in one year man. there are more then 3 people pushing the sport in that way dude, trust me on this one. pep and pollard especially, they have been doin progressive stuff for awhile, and so have other unknown people at many of the big. mtn. world class resorts. its just finally been documented for the rest of the world/skiing community to see. but there is always somebody doin somethin new, that might never even be seen, becuase they just want to ski. it pushes the sport cuz now more people are aware of what is possible in skiing, some people just don't have an imagination and aren't able to see the future of skiing and need someone to show them.
werrdd carlin..i wouldn't be suprised if we see hayden in one of these haha...i'm stoked though..this thread has some super good comments..praises to you all
^haha maybe because your easier to look at? and the pigment or lack there of is no longer blinding, but I doubt it. haha maybe he is from california?
and YES, hayden is an awesome example of that, he has been doin sick shit for awhile now, and he is not stopping anytime soon. alta has created a machine.
most the new stuff they are doing happened this past year, nose butter 3's 5's or whatever off pillows, crazy handplants with spins, and so much more butery spinny tappy thing you can think of happened this last year. the year before they were still doing sick stuff, but then it was probably equal with snowboarding.
anyway yeah i think they just created teh future of newschool skiing, i think its where skiing is heading for sure and it gives skiing its own totally unique style.
...Until skiing like this becomes the next huge trend, and everyone is riding rockers and jibbing BC. Then, those of us who have been riding this terrain for years and have enjoyed being removed from the park scene trends and all of that bullshit are completely displaced, and there are idiots running around in BC zones... Whatever, I'm glad as a whole that the movie came out, OK. It needed to happen for sure. I always felt like this side of skiing was something unique and small and whenever something that you are into blows up people are bound to be upset. Then, this cool unique aspect is played out, and it loses it's appeal. I guess my first indication of this was when I went into a sort of gaper ski superstore the other day and they had Idea on repeat and they seemed to be pushing Hellbents hard.
It only had 3 skiers in it and then some other guys who no one has ever heard of before. The 3 skiers aren't even X-games quality skiers I am pretty sure. I think I only saw 1 skier spin more than a 720 and if we want this sport to progress we need to start spinning faster and bigger with more rotations. How many times can a skier do a 360 or a 720 before you want to see them do a 1440? If they had filmed with better skiers then they could have made a better movie I think. And the film quality looked grainy in some spots. I think some of the guys weren't even using poles or maybe used really little ones. Only some of the music had words and none I have ever heard on the radio before.
Overall, i can't discredit it too much though because it was better than my movie and this is probably the first movie the director did. Does anyone know where Erik Ingberg came from by the way? Did he work for another production company?
Like oh my god, I was totally in love with you before this thread.
I don't think that idea represents a new era in skiing. What it does is represent what seems to be a minority of skiers nowadays that are respectful of the mountain and the sport, and aren't concerned with what a majority of the freeskiing community is doing.
I think that this movie is reflective to those of us who chill, are more inclined to appreciate the aesthetic beauty and rewards of skiing, rather than arguing whether tight pants are gay or not, asking if tanner is really a thug or think that greasing a rail makes you a good skier, and have never known the joy of starting a dawn tour with your best friends after a classic Utah storm.
Thats what Idea represents to me. Its a not a new era, however, because some of us never forgot why we love skiing with every last bit of our soul.
people have been skiing/landing switch in deep pow for years... but they have not done most of the shit i have seen in this film (buttering in pow, and literaly jibbing pow)
no i am not making this up. you have to see the movie to know what i am talking about. you can probably order it online. it is not that good.
the 3 skiers that are in the movie seem to be too concerned with grabs and not enough about rotations. how is that progressing the sport? they do land backwards in powder which is the first time i have ever seen that, but i am pretty sure that is because they under rotated a lot of those spins.
i think it's hilarious how everyone is so stuck on the no pole thing...everyone is way too obsessed with the image of the sport..look beyond it please!! that's what this movie is trying to get across..it's dismissing the fashion, dismissing the trend and overall attitute that we've been seeing in skiing..it's just skiing! If someone came up to you and told you that you don't look like a skier, that you're doing everything wrong, you would probably tell them to shut the fuck up and that your having fun and doing what you love...pep pollard andy and everyone else in this movie is doing what THEY do best..they aren't concerned with their image, with what people might judge, they are just skiing...they completely define what a soul skier is, and they do it with a camera and media which would be extremely hard. They are progressing the sport in a different way..it's not like competition progression where you just go big and crazy and huck yourself, it's progression through purity, through a new outlook. So everyone needs to change their outlook. I'm not saying everyone needs to agree with their skiing and like it, but they need to stop hating on it and saying it's wrong. It's not wrong, it's different.