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Best sled (snowmobile) for backcountry (pow)

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Geonerd
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which is the best sled for backcountry and pow available?? not talking about money
Aug 23 2007 9:58AM
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Nadia.
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Since we're going COMPLETELY off topic. This is all I have in my defense.

http://helptheiraq.ytmnd.com/

But what will you do without maps?!
Aug 26 2007 2:33AM
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SNOWMOWER
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I Fucking love sleds-- it is all i do in the winter--- is sled ski and sledneck------ If i were to draw some kind of statistical data from what i have seen in my last 3 years of heavy snow mowing.... its buy fucking insurance !
Aug 26 2007 2:34AM
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SNOWMOWER
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yes we are fucking stupid----------- but there is just more of us----
Aug 26 2007 2:36AM
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Nadia.
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**There ARE just more of us. Hehehe.
Aug 26 2007 2:41AM
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eljefe
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Yea baby...BUY YOUR INSURANCE KIDDIES...Hey I think the REV's look neat... I almost bought one...two different ones actually...and then I just bought another Arctic Cat instead...Maybe I'll buy an XP if they hold up...
Aug 26 2007 2:45AM
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SNOWMOWER
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DERRRRRRR DERRRRRRR
Aug 26 2007 3:20AM
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eheath
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Aug 26 2007 4:53AM
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MLB
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lol....your just a dumb shit mag reader. The origial summit was the FIRST mountain sled, not the M7. If you want to go farther then that the powder king by AC was their first mountain sled ( look it up, im not wrong). The original summit was a formula platform with an extended track, and different ski geometry. I have own ski doos all my life, and i have NEVER had clutch problems.

I have highmarked everything from the 2000-2002 670, to the 2003-2004 800 HO and NEVER EVER had any clutch problem. YOu just need to know how to run your sled and take care of it. Its easy to say " Well their clutch fucking sucks" if you just send your sled to the shop to get fixed. The REV platform was the FIRST platform to give the rider an ergonomic stance. EVERY other sled followed right after.

Our technology is actually better then yours, we invented the damn thing, and still have the best selling sled in north america. How many snowcross wins? How many hillcross wins? Umm must be doing something right. Ohh and the summit was the first sled to have a track go over 150 from the factory.

BTW the only thing about AC that is american is their chasis, nothing else. Their engine is suzuki. Now the M7 is based off of an OLD OLD OLD ass platform ( the ZR platform). Its twice as old as the rev, not to mention three times as fragile.

LOL and i love the doctors statement......i love how you rate people even though every doctor is different at their job. How about this, how much is it going to cost you to get a broken arm fixed at your local hospital? Here in canada, its free for me. I rather like the fact that if im being rushed into an emergency room they will work on me no matter what, where as in the states you don't have an HMO, you get thrown out on to the streets.

Canada, home of the first snowmobile, and the best one. Home of basketball, hockey, and apple pie ( thats right apple pie was invented in canada). The first patent for the light bulb was invented in canada. Do you want me to keep going ? No offence but OUR TECHNOLOGY is better in every way /shape/form. Now go read another mag.
Aug 26 2007 11:58AM
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SNOWMOWER
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the m7 is nothing like the zr platform------ have u ever ridden the two????? what the fuck our u talking about----- u may have free health care but that creates problems... LIke not seeing the doctors or specialist you want to see. Long waits and shitttttttt............ + the really goods ones come over here to make that moneyyyyyyyy!!!!!.....
Anyways


just look at the numbers sir------ SKI DOO Fucked up last year--- there clutches were more sensitive then a red haired step child is to the sun..... I have had friends who pamper there machines (ski doo) and still have to fuck with there clutch after going up a hill and then having to do it again 2 mins later

Don't deny yourself reliability and buy an AC

and yes very few things are made by americans these days, but that is because we our too busy watching nascar and pissing on electric fences............. Those suzki motors our damn good- as our the Rotax---- But as far as the whole pizza goes there is no question...........
hey look if i was from canada i would rep the shit out of ski doo too..... I don't blame you.......... What's home if you can't hold down the court???
Aug 26 2007 2:16PM
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SNOWMOWER
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at least everyone gets health care up there.... Here we let ppl die W/o it--- Check out SICKO
Aug 26 2007 2:19PM
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SNOWMOWER
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u don't have a mexican problem though
Aug 26 2007 2:21PM
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SNOWMOWER
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u don't have a mexican problem though
Aug 26 2007 2:21PM
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dmiller
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i took my buddies phazer out for a ride and absolutely hated it. 80 horse power is not enough. and it still weighs 520 pounds. worst machine ever.
Aug 26 2007 3:10PM
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MLB
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actually they are exactly the same, but the M7 has a longer track. The same SLA suspention, same front chasis, same steering angles, same front suspention travel...i could go on but i think you get the point. The only difference between the two is the track design.

Ive seen more AC sleds broken on the side of trails/powder pits/ ditches/fields/hills then any other sled out there. I don't trust suzuki engines for shit since i have no idea where they do their cold wether testing. Ohh and i really really really don't believe you about the ski-doos overheating. Especailly the v-twins, the EFI engines, or the liquid cool engines.

AC does have some great ideas like their ethanol mode on the firecats, their turbo 4 stroke, and their looks ( they do look sick). But i would never trust one in a million years.

Ive ridden everything from ski-doo summit X, their 800 HO, the pre-rev summits, MXZ, and MACH Z. Ive also ridden polaris RMK 900, the Fusion 900, XC 700, Classic 600, yamaha mountain max, mountain viper, RX-1. Ski doo just have it right, they know what a sledneck wants in his snowmobile on the trail/mountain/ditch/etc.

The true answer to this thread is to buy a sled, any sled and pump it up with aftermarket parts. Yamaha has the most after market parts out there, and their viper is a prime platform if you cut a few pounds off of it.
Aug 26 2007 4:10PM
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SNOWMOWER
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yeah ahahaha
Aug 26 2007 5:38PM
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SNOWMOWER
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AC tests there shit on a track at the factory.... They put wheels on the skis... They pound the shit out of em in hot weather w/ no snow...... That is how u get a good running sled.....Keeping them cool is always the problem, its not getting them hot. Ski doo is rad they just need to do some refinements.... They kind of remind me of FORDs

A: expensive

and

B: finicky

The AC is just a better buy and who else puts out a 4 year warranty?????????? : O ?
Aug 26 2007 5:46PM
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SNOWMOWER
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but for really snowmobiles are all about buying the right model on the right year..... U could be happy with any make besides a Deere
Aug 26 2007 5:50PM
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eheath
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I could care less, it was free.
Aug 26 2007 5:52PM
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DANETRON
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wow am i the only one who rides old beaters?
Aug 26 2007 6:17PM
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eljefe
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You'll care when you can't get out of guardsmans pass this winter...

And for the Ski Doo/M series argument. I believe it to be true that the rev was the first rider forward sled. I have no idea about the ZR/M series chassis comparison. Might be true.

I've yet to have problems with my M series sleds though, and the only summit I ever owned had mass problems and all my sledding 'brah's' on Doo's certainly have problems with em. I've heard more stories and seen more problems with Ski Doo's than any other sled, maybe in part that there are way more of them than any other, but thats that.

To Our canadian Ski doo Friend. I don't doubt that you have had no problems with Doo clutching. But I also don't doubt that you know exactly how to tune your clutch on the fly. I can't imagine thats something our average Newschoolers.com associate is going to be very competent at. I'd say I've got some work to do on mine since I haven't done any, but truth be that my shits hittin and holdin 8100 from the factory and thats just dandy with me.

Bottom line. Sleds have problems. Except for Phazers...their only problems is that they won't go anywhere ski worthy. talk about a glorified midwest boondoggle machine...
Aug 26 2007 6:44PM
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SNOWMOWER
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hahah boondoggle
Aug 26 2007 8:16PM
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SNOWMOWER
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sorry about the ford comment-- I totally forgot
Aug 26 2007 8:19PM
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SNOWMOWER
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dude if u actually plan on getting into Bileing-- I would sell that thing-- and get yourself an 03-05 king kat 900 for around 5 grand give or take.......


Aug 26 2007 10:24PM
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eheath
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I'm not.
Aug 26 2007 10:28PM
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kozy
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he speaks the truth
Aug 26 2007 10:35PM
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eljefe
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Its cool...it was a good point...bout ski doo's...
Aug 26 2007 11:02PM
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ian_provo
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dude, get over it. Arctic Cats are beat as hell. you can't compare the mountain performance of any cat to a ski doo rev, there is none. But at the end of the day its nice to have any sled I guess.
Aug 26 2007 11:03PM
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eljefe
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Im not trying to start a turf war by anymeans here, but I dunno how you can say AC's are beat. Our stock 700's will climb with rev 800r's all day. I know your a Ski-Doo'er Ian and thats cool. Ski Doo'ers have ridiculous brand loyalty, but truth be that the 05-up M sleds are right there with the Rev's.

Its all good though cuz its really all about gettin those freshies...bless up!
Aug 26 2007 11:10PM
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SNOWMOWER
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i am over it...... Go ride your spaced out maple leaf--------------



Go Sabres Go Bills

Fuck the leafs and most importantly Fuck the ottawa senators!
Aug 26 2007 11:23PM
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SNOWMOWER
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oh yeah and fuck TEXAS--------- I hate u Dallas and hope ur shitty city burns to the ground
Aug 26 2007 11:24PM
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Mahre
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hahaha...who gives a shit if armada and yamaha had a deal. in low end power, four strokes dominate two strokes. end of story. weight has nothing to do with this.

snomos will end up like motocross bikes. Yamaha will again be the innovator.
Aug 26 2007 11:24PM
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SNOWMOWER
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cheap snowmobiles are a mistake
Aug 26 2007 11:26PM
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SNOWMOWER
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what the fuck sled won the X games????? AC

what the fuck sled won the worlds at jackson????? AC

what kind of sled does the dude who one that red bull thing ride? AC


its like you people are trying to dawg chevy or something------


get over it........

IF u got 20,000 grand go for an 4 stroke apex and pimp ur ride............
Aug 26 2007 11:30PM
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Nadia.
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Not everyone has 20,000$ to "pimp" a sled. I was lucky to find mine for 8000$(07 skidoo summit 800 144 track with 1500 km, new shocks, new clutch, new skis, 1 more year warranty.) and it was still 2,000$ more than I originally wanted to spend. You know, some of us actually have to WORK to pay for our toys.
Aug 26 2007 11:49PM
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617freeskier
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get a yamaha phazer fx. they ride like fucking dirtbikes.
Aug 26 2007 11:51PM
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eljefe
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he's not talkin bout $20,000 sleds, don't get all hissy.
Aug 27 2007 12:18AM
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eljefe
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ps I looked at 3 07's 800r 151's with 600kms(that was the highmileage one) and none were more than 6800. That was american though so I suppose thats what like 20g's canadian??? But yea, then I just bought another Arctic Cat instead...booooya
Aug 27 2007 12:27AM
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dmiller
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are you serious? its a well known fact among anyone who knows anything about snowmobiling or dirt biking that two strokes absolutely destroy four strokes on low end power. period.
Aug 27 2007 12:31AM
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dmiller
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seriously, dumbest thing ive heard in a while.
Aug 27 2007 12:33AM
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Nadia.
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Actually the Canadian dollar is almost on-par with the American. Most places in Whistler take US$ on par with CND$

It might have something to do with your country carpet bombing everyone that *might* have WMD's.


If you even bothered to read his previous threads he was in fact talking about dropping 20+ grand on a sled.

It helps to read all the posts in a thread before talking directly out of your ass.

Considering that 07 summit 800s were like 14,000+ new last year, most of them around here are selling for 9,500-10,000. 8000$ was a fairly decent deal. Canadian taxes and import rates and a bunch of other things factor in for sled purchasing. Its not exactly the same as in the states.

I've love to know where exactly you managed to find 07 summit 800s for 6800. Less than half of what they retailed new last year.
Aug 27 2007 1:48AM
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Fish_Sandwich.
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2 strokes 4 lyfe
2 stroke jetskis, 2 stroke ATV's, and 2 stroke dirtbikes

although some of the new 4 strokes are getting better.  At least in terms of jetskis.  Still no 4 stroke mass produced standup though, which is all that really matters.
Aug 27 2007 1:54AM
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SNOWMOWER
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negative there son......
Aug 27 2007 2:17AM
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SNOWMOWER
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that is defiantly true my dear......
Aug 27 2007 2:19AM
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SNOWMOWER
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just go to snowest.com------------ ppl put up spanking deals---- us americans have credit card problems----- So ppl unload there shit for hella cheap
Aug 27 2007 2:23AM
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SNOWMOWER
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trade something for it and there are no taxes
Aug 27 2007 2:24AM
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Ryanvdonk
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obviously jeff skis more back country than you can even dream of, so i'll give the edge to Mr. Thomas
Aug 27 2007 3:05AM
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eljefe
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Definately not more than we 'dream' of...He does have PNW on lock down evidently though...
Aug 27 2007 11:53AM
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eljefe
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Whatev's though...Im ejecting from this thread...I think the person who started it at least got some info as to where to start...
Aug 27 2007 12:31PM
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eljefe
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Trust me I wasn't talking out of my ass. He was talking about 20k yami turbo sleds, and then responded to the beater sleds post. Neither of us even ride mod sleds. And there are REV 800r's all over utah in that price range...14k Im pretty sure all the rev 800's started at 10,500 here in the states bro...You can find em on snowest, in the classifieds. Ive even found 07 800r 159xrs for what you paid.

My point was not originally to spite you but to provide price based context for anyone else reading the thread. I suppose I'll have to work on not talking out of my ass before reading...eh
Aug 27 2007 12:37PM
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eljefe
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Aug 27 2007 12:38PM
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