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American army vs. canadian army
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now dont go and say that the canadian army is still using the same guns as they were when we b>beat
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yes that the story that they gave the publick but really you guys said "we'll protect you from attack dont worryso then we cancelled the avro arrow. whice would still be a competitve ariplane today
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first of all thats becaus eim the most well read on this topic. this topic aint about whether or not war is better or worse, its about whose military is better. secondly i obviously give everyones post consideration as i quote everyone and then prove them wrong. thirdly you cant be btoh defensive and aggressive.
frankly i dont really care what you think of either military. Im sorry for your loss dude but i take it that because were talking military here, most ppl who are staying on topic are more loyal to the military. this topic isnt about whether or not war is right. that arguement is whats really destroying this thread. that argument doesnt belong here. were here to talk guns.
I go into detail in order to provide solid evidnece. Its the 75th ranger REGIMENT not unit. They use ACU camo.
Im not even going to start on your cold hearted analysis of the middle east. Were there keeping sunnies from killing shiites and vice versa. if we werent there itd be even worse. just cuz something is hard to fix doesnt mean you shouldnt try.
Im sure your cousin would be insulted to hear that you think his death was pointless. If he joined the military im sure he thought what he was doing was right.
Were not trying to fight terrorism, were just trying to "peace keep" right now like you guys, but we take on tougher countries.
but enough. no more arguing iraq. this thread is for the discussion of militaries not politics.
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the avro arrow wouldnt even be close to a competitve airplane today. The avro arrow is similar to the f4 phantom which we no longer use. It was one of the first jet engined aircraft and lacks many modern features. I think you underestimate the technological advancements in americas war planes.
In both the f22 and f35 joint strike fighter,
weapons payloads are stored within the aircraft. when launched flaps open, struts emerge and the missiles launch. this is the reduce radar signature. both of these fighters are both stealth and non retardedly shaped. They can both go supersonic without the need of afterburners. they have fly by wire and very advanced HUD. The rear afterburner of the f35 can pivot allowing for the most rediculous manuverability.
the avro arrow didnt have fly by wire, hud, stealth, hi speed, hi altitude, extreme manuverability. Granted it was a nice plane for its time, it would be vastly outdated today.
Oh yea we didnt need your avro arrow anyway. Our planes were just as if not mroe advanced than you yet to be developed CF105.
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Now don’t go putting the US on a silver platter by referring to Canada is the inferior “little brother”. As much as it hurts to hear, the US has its fair share of negative faults. The US has much higher gun violence and crime rates than Canada. However, the US has a stronger economy.
I see that as a problem that you cant see other countries as your equal If you cant do this, then you cant see anything clearly. Canada is by no means superior, nor inferior to the US. We are all human, and we are all the same. Every country has their problems, and every country has their strengths. it’s the arrogance of everyone that forces them to overlook these facts to feel that their country is superior. Are you human? I sure am. We are equals. Canada is not the “little brother” to the US. We aren’t your “inferior”. We aren’t your “helper”. We are your equal.
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you obviously misread that joke. now, if youll quit your america the country vs canada the country comments and leave, we would very much appreciate it. unless you have something to contribute to the current topic, leave.
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i know that the f22 and the j35 are far supierier then the arrow how ever the arrow was more then just a nice plane for its time it was light years ahead of the other planes
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Lets face it. The US has a bigger, stronger army. That’s all well and good. The US government invests much more money into their military than the Canadain Government. Again, that’s all well and good. But in my opinion, the thing that the US military uses these strengths for arent just.
You can give one man a stone, and the other the most advanced gun, and either man can come out victorious. It really doesnt matter who has a better army. What matters is that militaries arent overbuilt, and are used only in extreme situations and under extreme circumstances. You can have a military consisting of 12 soldiers, and 4 pistols, and an army consisting of 1200 soldiers and 4000 rifles. IN the end, people die. Its not worth it.
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again youre not good at politics so stop preachign your hippie propaganda. this aint a political debate. but il lschool you at that too. you cant give one man a stone against a us soldier. how are you gonna kill a us soldier with astone if hes wearing a MICH or IBH helmet, a PACA, and a plate carrier? where are you gonna hit him with it? i dont get it.. hahah jk. seriously though. youre ruinging the thread.
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well i mean it was better than most migs but i looked it up on wikipedia cuz i didnt know much about it but it said: "equally advanced US Navy Sparrow II" I know a lot about the sparrow and lemme tell you that was one sick plane too.
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You overlooked my point. It doent matter who is better, because in the end, no one wins.
What do you want me to say? The US Army is better? There I said it. The US Army is better. Yet, there are militaries better than the US. THere is always someone better than you, no matter what it is.I think you're taking it too seriously. It sarted out as a discussion, now its just an argument. I have kept it civilized, but you consistantly resort to name calling and immediate defence.
I just dont know why we cant see each military as euqal. They are allies, and have the same goal. why must we argue about it?
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because thats what we wnat to do. we dont share the same view points as you. its pretty clear. and since your point is off topic and is crappin up this htread, leave.
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i cant think of a stronger way to say "the american army is better", than saying just that
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Your level of maturity is amazing. Once you encounter a view seperate from your own, you seem to become defencive, and tell me to "leave".
I'll say it one last time. The US has a bigger, stronger army. I cant deny that. There, I have said what you wanted to hear. With that done, this thread has no more need for a purpose.
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im not being defensive. its not a different view point, its an irrelavent one.
monkey and i were talking about airplanes before you so rudely interrupted.
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Airplanes, military-they can all be compared the same as this:
My point is that saying one military is better is like saying an apple is better than a pear. Each has their own faults and strengths. You may like the way you can cut an apple into various shapes, and I may like the taste of the pear’s skin. There isn’t a right or wrong answer. Both are “better”, and neither are “better”.
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um actually seeing as how were both NATO allies, UN allies, and NORAD allies, were really compairing apples with apples here. Or a better analogy: bacon with bacon. All you have to do is match up each element, determine which is better, and then assess overall.
So far:
ground troops: america 1, canada 0
airplanes: america 1, canada 0
Theres still ICBMs, cannons, tanks, personell carriers, and seafarring vessels to talk about.
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shut up with your no ones better bullshit. jumister is owning everyone
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Wow, I didnt realize that my opinion was causing soooooo much issues. Be a little more mature about your responce.
It really doent matter who is better.
The US army is bigger, and stronger. But no matter what is said, no ones opinions and views are going to change.
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Lol dont get all fucking yippy with me now, im simply stating that you being a dumbass used the word INITIATED which more or less means begins. I was assuming that you meant they created it so fuck yourself. :)
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Yes because when some people are presented with facts they simply become close minded and stick to their ignorant opinions which have been proven wrong.
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haha sorry. all the responses i post at night are while im drunk and/opr high so...
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Exactly, thats what I have been trying to say. People arent listing to others reasoning because they DONT want to hear it.
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i think he meant that as an insult to those who are still in denial, not as a supporting comment for you.
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Im not in denail? Ive have stated 3 times that the American Army is bigger and stronger.
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i was just about to say that
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okay stop it i think i can break it down here
american army has more money=better weapons=a army with good guns
i think we all understand this
canada has less money=not as good weapons=being forced to strengthen the other points of are military
simple
WAR IS STILL NOT GOOD
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yeh exactly but .. were not as domb as them so we lose less men
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I agree with everything you said. I dont think its more of a question of "which army is better", more of "whose army is better"
I have been saying for quite a while that war solves nothing, but I am constantly bitched out. Really, we all know that the only solution is to kill everyone, then, there wont be any problems.
But yes, War is completely pointless, and just leads to more future conflict.
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Fucking retards...
How has this made it to 6 pages? Yes, the US has a better equipped and larger military...thats not even up for debate. They spend more on their military then the rest of the world combined and have a population 10 times that of Canada. Its a no brainer. Want a pat on the back for wasting your money like a bunch of useless twats? The only reason you have to spend that much is because you piss off every fucking country you talk too since you gained your independence. Congradufuckinglation.
Get over yourself and your military specs. None of this shit is useful anymore. You (the US) spend way too much on it. Its pathetic. Ever heard of being diplomatic or is an f-15 with laser guided missiles the only language you speak?
I really wish I could close a topic instead of just deleting it...
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we did start the un... and ratify geneva conventions 3 4 5 6 and 7...
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that just simply isnt true. america has better training and more discipline
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yes but you went throug 6 page explaining how good your weapnos are
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tru dat aight niggz no more posting from me. today was my last day of work so i will no longer be locked up in this shit hole of acubicle typing away on ns.
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Stop being so damn selective in your responces.
"How has this made it to 6 pages? Yes, the US has a better equipped and larger military...thats not even up for debate. They spend more on their military then the rest of the world combined and have a population 10 times that of Canada. Its a no brainer. Want a pat on the back for wasting your money like a bunch of useless twats? The only reason you have to spend that much is because you piss off every fucking country you talk too since you gained your independence. Congradufuckinglation.
Get over yourself and your military specs. None of this shit is useful anymore. You (the US) spend way too much on it. Its pathetic. Ever heard of being diplomatic or is an f-15 with laser guided missiles the only language you speak?
I really wish I could close a topic instead of just deleting it... "
He's right. The USA has more enemies than I can think of. Now you dont see young boys in the middle east making fake Harper (our prime minister you fucking idiot) pinyatas and burning the Canadian flag, now do you?
You need a "better" military because you piss off every country that you stick your arrogant little noses into.
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Great...you guys are so awesome.
That means since you started them and ratified them, that you follow them too correct? Oh no...you don't? You don't listen to, or care about anything they say?
Where is your 'discipline' now?
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CANADIAN MILITARY
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Funny. At least the Canadian Army didnt make Iraqi prisoners have sex with one another and watch it, take naked pictures of them, and torture them.
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if you can list one incident in which we intentionally violated
a specific article of geneva conventions 3-7 and it went unpunished by our own government (there goes abu-grahb), ill quit. but you can't. so i wont.
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once again this is because canada is not the icon of the west or the free world. Its much easier to target the posterboy of freedom and infidelism than it is to target a bystanding following tundra of a country. Once again, its easier to target the spearhead than a splinter 3 feet down the shaft.
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do you know what that prison was called? it was called abu grahb which i specifically mentioned above. those soldiers were sentenced to war crimes and now serve prison time.
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holy shit read my post again you guys dont even know what the prison is called. y ou feel stupid now dont you?
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The reason the US is the target is because they are constantly impeding upon other countries, especially developing countries affairs. THAT, is a fact.
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didint the us go in to iraq when the un told them not to
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well the UN haas been proven to be non-effective in some situations, and the league of nations certainly didnt work out well.
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They told them it wouldnt be a positive movment for either side for the US to go to Iraq.
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