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ok so im looking for a new ski. first off i'll say i'm abut 5'8'', 130 pounds and a pretty agressive skier. i have some sprayer bc's right now that are pretty much new. but to tell you the truth they weren't what i expected them to be and i don't like them that much. i thought they were going to be a light, little jib ski with a little width. now i know weight doesnt matter until your talking about swingweight (tip vs. tail) but they just don't feel right. with my older line mike nicks i feel like i can just whip those skis around and i don't feel the same on the sprayers. with the mike nicks i can butter real easy and get up on my tips and spin and shit. so im looking for a light, responsive ski around 83 mm at waist give or take a few mm's. i want a fun ski to butter and mess around on but still be able to rip groomers with them. i just mean i dont want them to wash out once i hit a decent speed and im carving. i also ski a good amount of park cause im getting mroe into that and started skiing park last year. now ideally (sp?) i would ski the older lines but they're just dead. so what are your guys thoughts? ski options that i would like? keep in mind i'll be skiing these most days and i'll probably keep the sprayers for pow days since i wouldnt get enough money if i sold them. so these are just my fool around, have fun, rip everywhere, ride park ski.i didnt put too much emphasis on park because honestly any of the skis that are suggested will perform good in teh park as long as they meet my specifications from before. unless its not a twintip which isnt an option. i kind of wrote a lot and its real jumbled, sorry.
ok so im looking for a new ski. first off i'll say i'm abut 5'8'', 130 pounds and a pretty agressive skier.
i have some sprayer bc's right now that are pretty much new. but to tell you the truth they weren't what i expected them to be and i don't like them that much. i thought they were going to be a light, little jib ski with a little width.
now i know weight doesnt matter until your talking about swingweight (tip vs. tail) but they just don't feel right. with my older line mike nicks i feel like i can just whip those skis around and i don't feel the same on the sprayers.
with the mike nicks i can butter real easy and get up on my tips and spin and shit.
so im looking for a light, responsive ski around 83 mm at waist give or take a few mm's. i want a fun ski to butter and mess around on but still be able to rip groomers with them. i dont want them to wash out once i hit a decent speed carving.
i also ski a good amount of park cause im getting mroe into that and started skiing park last year. now ideally (sp?) i would ski the older lines but they're just dead.
so what are your guys thoughts? ski options that i would like? keep in mind i'll be skiing these most days and i'll probably keep the sprayers for pow days since i wouldnt get enough money if i sold them. so these would be my everyday fool around, have fun, rip everywhere, ride park ski.
i didnt put too much emphasis on park because honestly any of the skis that are suggested will perform good in the park as long as they meet my stated specifications, unless its not a twintip which isn't an option. i hope thats easier to read. any input is appreciated!
would you rather have a ski that can hold an edge while going fast on groomers or would you rather have a ski that is really easy to butter? because you would need a ski on the softer side in order to butter easily but that same ski wouldnt hold an edge as well and could be shaky at high speeds on groomers. you could get something like the ar6 which can butter with some effort but can also hold an edge.
i understand that. i mean you really have to go pretty fast for chatter to be a problem and not be able to hold an edge at all. i race so i know the difference. i dont need to be carving as if i was on race skis but i would like to be able to hold a decent edge. i don't want to be sliding everywhere though, thats for sure.
i really think that people over exaggerate the cons of a soft ski. personally i like soft skis, im lightweight so its not too bad for me. i like to butter around on the same trail that i'm ripping 10 seconds later.
^yea i know what your saying. being light deffintaly helps. my my friend got arv's at the beginning of last season and near the end of the season they became rockered because he skied on them so much and rockered skis obviously cant hold an edge on groomers so you really dont want that to happen.
I love my invaders. They are soft and definitely have a speed limit, but they fit the bill as a light swing weight, nice buttering park ski. Pretty cheap, too.
I am a lot bigger than you (6'1" 170) and like soft skis. If you are worried about the stiffness, Chronics are nice ski for park and still carve well at speed.