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Who do you think is the best US presidential canidate thus far and why

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steezebeast
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I figured this appropriate after the latest democratic debate.
I'm interested to hear the political views from other peeps on NS. Don't just post the reasons as to who, but give a reason too.
Jul 24 2007 7:44PM
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chickenwang
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i dont have the slightest clue to whos even running
quite frankly i dont even care
Jul 24 2007 7:48PM
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skithedirt
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obama but he is just almost to good to be true coz he is young and there isnt a lot of history on him he really never did anything wrong even tho he is a democrat
Jul 24 2007 7:48PM
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garrett.
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doesnt matter cuz anyone is better than bush
Jul 24 2007 7:49PM
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Reptar
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http://www.break.com/index/obama-girls-vs-giuliani-girls.html

obama fersher.
Jul 24 2007 7:50PM
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Gavajabra2
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I personally believe Barack Obama is the best fit for the presidency in 08. I agree with most of his views (which is slightly odd because he's a Dem and I'm a Republican), and I think even more then that is his personality. If you think every one of the voters in the U.S. knows jack shit about any of these Canidates, get real. I think when it comes down to it, it's their personality that whens elections. Barack Obama, I've never even met the guy before but he just appears so good-hearted, non-malicious, humble, even trustworthy. I think thats the image he's built for himself, while a guy like John Edwards doesn't convey an image so strongly, and Hilary is the evil bitch of this campaign. I'd also like to add I will fall out of my chair if a Republican takes the office again in 08.


Oh, and the Obama Girl gave Barack alot of votes, too.
Jul 24 2007 8:37PM
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snwbrdmilf
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Cam - wtf? You should care. Big time. You're an idiot.
Jul 24 2007 8:39PM
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TheButterHashira
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probly me. yeah i know how to fix america
Jul 24 2007 8:39PM
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SkiEastCoast
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american for sure.. haha
Jul 24 2007 8:46PM
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Ryanvdonk
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how is Hilary an evil bitch? if you had watched the debate last night you would have seen that she was the most confident speaker of the night, and did well to dispel the reputation of being cold and bullheaded. if you look at her political record it has every qualification needed and then some, and she has been able to sway the opinion of those in her own state who originally ha a dislike of her, though i would rather have her husband in there again. that being said i think obama relates better to the american public and does not have the same misguided rep that hilary has. he is well known as a charismatic speaker, though that was hard to convey last night as it seems he was responding to attacks most of the night. both will be great leaders if elected, though i agree more with obama's politics.
Jul 24 2007 8:46PM
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Gavajabra2
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I never said Hilary was an evil bitch, it's just how americans have made her image out to be.
Jul 24 2007 8:48PM
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Ryanvdonk
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ok, it sounded like you said that, but it's ridiculous how public opinion has construed this image with absolutely no evidence to support it.
Jul 24 2007 8:52PM
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CMF
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barrack. he seems honest. he seems like a good guy. and he seems like exactly what this country needs right now.

i hate hillary because she does that politician thing where if shes asked a question she just goes right around it and talks about how awesome her ideas are. also she wants to ban violent video games.
Jul 24 2007 8:55PM
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steezebeast
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The reasons that I don't think hillary will be elected is:

1) she's a woman
2) other countries don't have the same respect for women that people in the US and Canada do. Some foreign relations would go down the drain quite quickly. It's not that america isn't ready for a woman president, it's the other countries we need to be dealing with.
Jul 24 2007 8:59PM
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skier_dude_1831
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i just glad that it wont be bush
Jul 24 2007 8:59PM
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1stBlood
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im sure any pres would be better than that dipshit known as george w bush!!!

as long as its not hillary clinton, i could give a fuck who the next president is...
Jul 24 2007 9:07PM
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chickenwang
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why?
is my one vote gunna make a diff?
im sorry momma i never ment to hurt you
i never ment to make you cry :'(
Jul 24 2007 9:27PM
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snwbrdmilf
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YES!
Jul 24 2007 9:31PM
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PagesHouse
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i hate when people say that. because such a huge percentage of america says the same thing... my one vote doesnt matter..... if you get a few people to realize thats the worst theory ever and vote... it will make a difference
Jul 24 2007 9:33PM
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iggyskier
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exactly.

Just vote.  it doesn't take much of an effort and it really does make a difference.
Jul 24 2007 9:35PM
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Nicholas.
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zomg ron pawl is gunno win guyz
Jul 24 2007 9:36PM
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chickenwang
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mommy no!
i dont care 2 things are gunna happen
1 the whole worlds gunna blow up
2 if someone does fuck america over for good...canada here i come
ok i lied theres a 3rd
i have no fucking (sorry for the bad language mom) clue what the dif between republica/democrat or w/e else there is
were people people do what people want me on the other hand
i do what i want

periods are so over rated
cool people just hit
enter.
Jul 24 2007 9:41PM
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1stBlood
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what a dipshit...

its that kind of thinkin right there that is gonna screw this country up even worse than george bush..

keep on thinkin that man and one day about 30 yrs from now your gonna wake up in your shitty one room apartment, alone with no girlfriend or wife, reaizing that you shot the world to hell and you no longer have anything to vote for in the first place!!!

Jul 24 2007 9:45PM
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chickenwang
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ok then what do u want me to do?
vote for the wrong person?
i could fuck the world over that way too ya know...

and shut the fuck up u are a fucking retard stop claiming u ride for ninthward sann
Jul 24 2007 9:47PM
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iggyskier
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it isn't hard to educate your self on the issues that are imporant to this country.

If you(and everyone who doesn't vote) did that, and voted accordingly, maybe having a backup plan of moving to canada wouldn't be needed.
Jul 24 2007 9:49PM
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chickenwang
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i could
but i dont want to
maybe my thoughts will change, maybe they wont, by when its time to vote. but for right now id rather not worry about the world coming to an end, cuz if it does ill be happy believeing in what i believe in, not what other people tell me too
Jul 24 2007 9:55PM
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iggyskier
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I guess I would just add, then, the process of determining how you do vote is a lot of about finding out what you personally believe about everything that governs this country, not what others tell you.

That is the beauty of it. It is your vote.  It is what you want.  And it does matter.  And there really isn't anything that you have that is as unique as it.

I would just hope that sometime before the next election, which isnt for awhile, you take the time to learn about the issues that are significant in this country.
Jul 24 2007 10:00PM
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chickenwang
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ok then im not gunna go search on google for the people running.
so could u tell me who is the one thats actually trying to "prevent" global warming,
is actually going to stop this "war" that bush has going on
isnt going to take away our rights ( that whole 5th amendment thing bush has got up his sleeve)
someone who is actually going to speak the truth not cover "mistaks" up
and someone who skis
find that person make them run for president
and you got yourself another voter
Jul 24 2007 10:08PM
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skithesprings
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im not really against hillary, i just dont think he's the right man for the job.
Jul 24 2007 10:10PM
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iggyskier
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haha wow.  That would be quite the candidate.



Jul 24 2007 10:13PM
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snwbrdmilf
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Seriously, educate yourself. Iggy and El are right man. You can make a difference. You should care about yourself and the people in your country and what's going to happen...I'm doing my part in educating myself and it would make me happy to see other people doing the same.
Jul 24 2007 10:14PM
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steezebeast
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Are you indirectly, or even directly affected by taxes, foreign policy, immigration, crime reduction rates, and the other seemingly-minute things that don't haev to do with the huge debates like global warming and pro-life/pro-choice and whatnot?

If you're not you either don't live in America, you're young, you don't have a job, and/or are just an ignorant commoner who goes through life blindly and doesn't care what happens in his own country. If you are old enough to vote, have an opinion of some sort. I know we'll have even more voters in the next few years because the people are so much more interested in politics (because of Bush no doubt) rather than stupid fucks who laze around on their butts all day.
Jul 24 2007 10:15PM
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troutbum
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I found a great site a long time ago that outlines what each candidate stands for, evidenced by their votes, quotes, and approval ratings from certain groups. It's worth a look.

www.ontheissues.org
Jul 24 2007 10:17PM
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iggyskier
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that site is awesome.
Jul 24 2007 10:19PM
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chickenwang
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being 17 i havent been to effected by those such things
i will be 18 by the next vote so maybe ill put a lil more thought into it and do a lil more research
i doubt ill vote but ill have a broader presective of this whole thing
Jul 24 2007 10:21PM
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iggyskier
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just remember it is along time before you will get to vote for the next president.

I was just 18 when we had the last election, and although the dems lost, I am still very happy I voted and did everything I could to keep Bush out of the white house.  Sometimes it doesn't go your way, but even when it doesn't, your vote still means something.
Jul 24 2007 10:23PM
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1stBlood
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haha i knew you were like 16 or 17...
Jul 24 2007 10:24PM
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chickenwang
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thats kool i knew u were like 12-13
like i said in my friendly pm's
Jul 24 2007 10:26PM
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ijibgoremtn
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i dont know they keep changing their views to much, i really need to decide to cuz this is the first election i can vote in
Jul 24 2007 10:26PM
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Reptar
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listen sessions, its always gonna be a choice between a giant douche and a terd sandwich.
Jul 24 2007 10:26PM
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comeatmebro
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im 15 so i dont really care, and i wont care for a while. but im gonna say obama, because hes black. yes that is my reason and its a damn good one.
Jul 24 2007 10:27PM
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snwbrdmilf
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This thread hurts.
Jul 24 2007 10:28PM
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chickenwang
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i just had a chocolate oreo

but this is exactly what im saying
if i dont like any of them why vote at all?
Jul 24 2007 10:29PM
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1stBlood
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actually im 20 but nice try......BITCH
Jul 24 2007 10:30PM
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iggyskier
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There must be one you like the most.  Whose beliefs are the most inline with yours.

I will have certain disagreements with whoever I vote for, I am sure, because there are so many issues.

But they will still represent me the best in the government, and that is the whole point.
Jul 24 2007 10:32PM
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comeatmebro
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hes right, your not going to like any president fully. but the one you like the most is the one you vote for. not necessarily like, but more whose beliefs you follow, and who you agree with most on issues. but im only 15 so i dont know anything, fuck if i could vote id vote for obama solely because he is black. i guess thats why your supposed to be 18 to vote haha
Jul 24 2007 10:34PM
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chickenwang
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actually i dont even care
"age is just a number"-my dad
and you should feel proud of yourself for arguing with 16 year olds over the internet
do you want my adress so u can come and play games with me?
maybe we can discus why you claim u ride for 9 and act so hard when really no one gives a damn
Jul 24 2007 10:39PM
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snwbrdmilf
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You really need to stop being such a douche. Age may just be a number, but maturity tells who a person is. You need to get your shit together.
Jul 24 2007 10:43PM
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comeatmebro
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the boss has spoken.
Jul 24 2007 10:44PM
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chickenwang
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you cant tell feelings over the i-net so i think uve gt it wrong
Jul 24 2007 10:46PM
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Jul 24 2007 10:48PM
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