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Math...What is it???

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Gnl.Weirdness
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Ok so I was lookin over some game stuff, mainly some A.I. algorithms my boss had coded for our game, and this thought hit me.

Where the FUCK did math come from? I know what the history books say and shit, but I feel like they all say that humans created math, or they seem to glorify that idea.

Math is definitely NOT a child of the human brain. I don't know why I think this, but hearing things like: Fibonaccai Principals being applied perfectly to certain shells, and now even the flow of water and even blood in our veins.

How can that shit be of human creation if it exists within us.

WHAT!!!
Jun 24 2007 11:51PM
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Mr_Bojangles
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Couldn't have put it better myself.
Jun 25 2007 11:11PM
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jimmychung
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man's attempt to understand nature's system.
Jun 26 2007 2:38AM
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killa_cam
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pi isn't 22/7 what the fuck are you talking about
Jun 26 2007 8:46AM
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Tasche
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yes it is. And I don't know how you could say that pi isnt 3.14... because every equation that has ever used pi has been correct.

PI is a very simple number used to describe the shape characteristics of a circle. It is not a magic number that is up for debate. Therefore saying that "What if PI is actually not PI" is an argument a stoner would make.

There are other numbers in math that are constants and are used to describe the environment. e, Avogadro's number, acceleration due to gravity, etc. This is what gives basics number math application in the world.

The manupliation of this data usually in the form of proofs is what gives math its power.

Basically math is a way for humans to quantify, explain, and visualize the mechanisms in their world.
Jun 26 2007 10:16AM
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bigdaddytmac
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Math is crazy. Humans may have built the symbology of math, but math itself is not a human creation, it a fact of the universe. It is a human way of representing, analyzing, and communicating the basic properties of the universe.
Jun 26 2007 10:44AM
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ECfreeski3
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^
Jun 26 2007 11:57AM
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killa_cam
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um no pi is not 22/7. pi is a transcendental number, this can be proven. i doubt you even know what that means, but i can assure you i know alot more about mathematics than you.

there are several ways to approximate pi, for example using a taylor series
Jun 26 2007 12:15PM
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freezed
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pi is not 22/7, 22/7 just happens to be the same as pi to a few digits. it's not even an approximation, just a coincidence.
Jun 26 2007 12:49PM
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Tasche
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I always thought it was.

Shit I guess I don't know as much about math as I should.

I have taken 4 years of engineering so whoever said they know more math than me might be right. I am not a math major though so I just know how to apply it not where it comes from.

How do you prove pi with a taylor series?
Jun 26 2007 1:41PM
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freezed
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a taylor series just approximates it to a certain degree. though if you took your taylor series to infinitely many terms, you'd keep getting closer to pi's "real" value
Jun 26 2007 1:43PM
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Tasche
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whats your major?
Jun 26 2007 1:45PM
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invisman
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRgIbKEsYT4

Watch Pi.



Jun 26 2007 1:49PM
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Shorton
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Lizard Humanoids, Trust me.
Jun 26 2007 1:58PM
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DANETRON
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yup

Jun 26 2007 3:44PM
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