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PAYPAL DOES NOT HAVE YOUR BACK
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After a long ordeal and losing $150 CAD on a broken 2004 Marzocchi DJ2 for my bike, I discovered something that EVERYONE who as ever used paypal needs to know. I wrote 5 pages on paypal's dispute section detailing a sound case for why my money should be refunded. I am fully confident that if someone sat down and reviewed my case, I would win. This is not the point. The point is that Paypal, because of something somewhere in the user agreement in fine print, is not in any way obligated to back you up or even review your claim if the money in question was not for something you bought on EBAY, paypal's parent company. I found the ad for the fork on pinkbike.com, and decided to pay for it via paypal because their tons of ads brag about how SAFE it is. Paypal is there to protect you. This is a load of horse shit. If you are not using Ebay, paypal is absolutely no safer than sending a money order via the mail. Paypal WILL NOT even read your claim or arguments if you do not use Ebay. Their dispute center is basically useless. My claim was denied, my hard-earned cash taken from me, by a computer in 30 seconds because the transaction did not involve Ebay. After searching for a number to call and holding for 30 minutes, I was told by a kind woman at paypal that paypal was not responsible for my case. I actually said to her "So paypal spends millions of dollars on ads about how safe it is and how it will protect you, when it really says in fine print which it knows no one reads that it will not protect you." She said "It's true that many people are misled by this but it is clearly stated in the user agreement."
So basically stop using paypal. It's more or less a scam. I wouldn't suggest buying things on internet classifieds anymore either, since paypal was supposed to be the protection allowing you to do so.
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Well, that's pretty much common knowledge...How could they possibly insure every transaction? That doesn't make any sense. They aren't responsible for what people do, they just provide the service.
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exactly. its your own fault for trusting someone on the internet
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yeah bu paypal advertising as being safe and awesome and stuff....but really they are abunch of cracks.
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that suck, but yeah thats the internet
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if they advirtised how it wasnt safe and they didnt back you in any instance except when using ebay, would you still use them? NO! Its a business being a business.
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I'm not asking them to insure anything but they advertise that they can get your money back. It doesn't have to come out of their pocket, the idea is that they have the authority to decided whether you get the money or not. They can automatically take the money back from the person for you.
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Most people when buying on the internet don`t know what is the safest way to go. I don`t like to go through paypal because its a 3rd party looking to fuck you over in the end. They aren`t looking out for you, they are looking out for them selves. The best thing to do is deal through the bank. Thats what ive done with every internet purchase ive ever done, and ive never got fucked, and my sellers never got fucked.
Anybody who will try to fuck you on the net will back down when you tell them your going to pay via Money Order, or certified cheque. I dont know about most banks, but mine as soon as that cheque or money order is deposited anywhere they know where that account is. Then if i get fucked, that person`s account freezes and an investigation starts. Of course you can`t just show up to the bank with out do cause and say : lets fuck this guy. You have to show them proof. Anyways thats what i do.
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so basically just use ebay, because paypal is still king
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Even on ebay its not safe. I bought something on ebay for 30$ and they never sent it to me, so i filed a thing with paypal, and after like a month I ended up getting like 3$ back because thats all the other person had in their account.
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