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I totally just shat all up in my ski boots

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General_Shredgnar
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Ok heres a question. I have to buy some boots, I chose some solomon foils because they're sicknasty and nice, and after skiing with shit boots for 4 years Im ready for some pleasure.

Heres the problem. I have to order them online, and im not sure which size to get. My local ski shop (who doesnt carry ski equipment in the summer) measured my foot and said I needed a 26.5 mondo, but the conversion chart on solomons website says that with a size 10 foot, (which I have), you need 28 mondo. Was the ski shop dude just saying that so I would buy one of the few boots he had left? What should I do?

And I need to get the boots in 14 days because Im leaving to travel, and I will be skiing.
Jun 15 2007 3:28PM
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freezed
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listen to the ski shop guy, not the website.
Jun 15 2007 3:28PM
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fuckyocouch
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listen to the bootfitter son. peace
Jun 15 2007 3:29PM
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MrScruff
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What are you basing your foot size on? The shoes you buy?
Jun 15 2007 3:30PM
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doitbig
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i wear a 10 shoe and rock the 26.5. you probably wear your shoes big.
Jun 15 2007 3:32PM
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ARSpickert
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it kinda depends on what you like. if you like super tight boots like racers then listen to the shop guy. i do hate having boots like that. the shop guy said that i should get like 25s but those felt like shit. i ended up with size 27 spks because they feel so much better and i can actually strap them down like crazy if i need to.
Jun 15 2007 3:34PM
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comeatmebro
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id get a 27ish...
Jun 15 2007 3:44PM
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wazzucrewskier
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lol, oh god have fun having your feet slide around in there like a wet fish.  i mean seriously i bought my first boots too big cuz i was growing and didnt want to buy new ones the next year, but my feet never really grew that much into them.  so i had two footbeds in them, and would wear two pairs of socks just so they would fit decent.... boy was that ever a mistake.  this year i bought some new boots, i switched from the piece of crap salomon 1080 to the head mojo.  it was seriously night and day.  if you like to pressure your ski, make sure you get the correct size.  moving a full size down for me was seriously the best decision ever, you have infinite control over your ski.  as long as you get boots that are still comfortable in the correct size.  i found that the first day on them i could instantly carve much nicer arcs than with my old boots because my food wasnt sliding around in them.  also on my old boots even with them cranked all the way my heels would pull up riding switch cuz i would lean forward. 

in short, absolutely horrible idea to buy boots that are too big, hell it would be better to have boots a full size to small and just have them punch the toe out and do a little toebox grind than to have boots a full size too big.  it makes a huge difference with ski control when the boot can actually transfer all your leg power to the ski, instead of half of it when your foot is sliding around in your boot.
Jun 15 2007 3:50PM
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Chucktheweasel
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get the 26.5..actually, man up and get a 25
Jun 15 2007 4:05PM
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VANULAR
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26.5
Jun 15 2007 4:10PM
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invader7
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listen to the boot fitter and get the 26.5

Jun 15 2007 4:10PM
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=FLO=
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26.5 or 27 i wear a 10 1/2 and a 27.0
Jun 15 2007 4:21PM
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timmi
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go find another store and try them on...better then being stuck with boots you dont like.
Jun 15 2007 6:04PM
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Ryanvdonk
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get the 26.5, a tighter fit is better, you can always punch out any pressure points.
Jun 15 2007 6:12PM
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timoski
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unless you're getting some sort f rediculous deal wait 3 months
Jun 15 2007 6:13PM
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asonUnique
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i have weird feet i guess. my 27 size boots are way small and kill my feet while i have size 9.5 feet
Jun 15 2007 6:38PM
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ATLskier
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same.  Im a 9 1/2-10 and Im a 26.5 in my old salomon 1080s.  Shoe sizes are all different.  Get 26.5.
Jun 15 2007 6:40PM
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kepler.
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yeah shop guys right. but remember you have to think not only about the length of your foot but how wide it is, if you are pronated at all. narrow or wide ankle, high or low arch. i'd try the exact boot on you were going to buy online. it's the safest bet
Jun 15 2007 7:14PM
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Sholte
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yeah, thrust me
Jun 15 2007 8:36PM
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squibble
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i love my raichles, get those 25 should be fine
Jun 15 2007 9:38PM
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MadSteezin
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I have the Salomon Foil Boots. They fit so nicely! Try out the SPK's too they also feel great!
Jun 15 2007 9:43PM
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farmskier
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"listen to the bootfitter" haha there are some many shop employees that don't have a clue how to size boots....be careful man, is this shop legit? Do they actually know what they're doing?
Jun 15 2007 9:47PM
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eyeLiektoSkee
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bingo, id rather have boots that are slightly too small than too big and when i used to race we bought boots too small on purpose because it gives you better control and energy transfer to the ski
Jun 15 2007 9:51PM
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Capurnicus
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Worrd! This guy speaks the truth. Boots too big and uhh yeah, there goes control over your skis...and uhh yeah, you need that.
Jun 15 2007 10:12PM
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ARSpickert
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just get whatever works. i ski perfectly fine with my boots and they are comfortable. i personally like my boots to be a little loose but they arent too loose. you guys may think mine are way too big but guess what, i dont give a shit. i like them and thats all that matters.
Jun 15 2007 11:05PM
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hemlockjibber8
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28.5 mondo is equivalent to a 10.5 us mens shoes size.

however you do not want your ski boots fitting lie your shoes. because your heel is locked in the back, you need very minimal room in front of your toes.

generally, your boots are 1 to 2 sizes smaller than your shoes.
Jun 16 2007 4:55AM
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pmills
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take your boot smaller, then have the boot fitter shave it bigger, better fit for your foot. you don't want a sloppy fitting boot
Jun 16 2007 11:10AM
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billy092
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definatley go with the 26.5, and is there any reason that you cant return the boot if it is to small? i would definatley listen to the boot fitter because this is what he does for a living.
Jun 16 2007 11:56AM
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General_Shredgnar
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My friend had the boots in 27 and my toe was pushed against the front, despite the fact that i had no socks on. Also I need the boots now because when I leave for europe in 2 weeks, Im going skiing when Im there. Im going to try on my friends SPKs, because his feet are 10s and he has a 28 and loves them. Its true though, I could always get the shop dude the custom up the boots.
Jun 16 2007 4:41PM
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eheath
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I have a size 11 shoe and wear size 28 boots.
Jun 16 2007 4:54PM
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Casey
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I wear a 10 and rock a 28.5, no one should ever buy boots online.
Jun 16 2007 7:21PM
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617jibber
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i would never buy boots online unless i tried them on at a store first
Jun 16 2007 7:28PM
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nzpete
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Measure your foot yourself, if it's 26.5cm from heel to toe, get the 26.5, easy.
Jun 16 2007 7:57PM
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Casey
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dude, every company has different sizing, and every company has a different foot shape, and even if you wear them all day, you might not know that they're going to kill your feet on the hill. so no, its not easy, and you shouldnt' give shitty advice like that.
Jun 16 2007 8:07PM
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C.J.
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agreed

I wear a 10 shoe and a 27.5 boot.
Jun 16 2007 8:08PM
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hemlockjibber8
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actually if he were to do it himself and order boots, that would be the best thing to do. yes, there is variance between companies. salomon fits short for ex. its a half cm at most.

obviously theres the width issues to deal with, but he is looking at foils which are very wide. Odds are he has too much room in the width with those. anyways, two punches and anywidth probs are dealt with.

when you measure for a boot you measure how many mm or cm the foot is. for a 26.5 salomon, your roughly looking at anywhere between a 258 to 270 mm foot. please don't use that as a guide, its a rough estimate to give you an idea. the next step is to check your foot inside the shell to see the room in the length of the boot
Jun 16 2007 10:09PM
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[~_~]
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yeah word, never base your boot size off your shoe size because most people wear somewhat loose shoes and boots are supposed to be snug!
Jun 16 2007 10:16PM
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East.
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ive got 10s w/ 27.5's... If you're going on a ski trip, just bring your shit boots and buy some foils or park boots wherever it is that you're skiing. Then again, if you dont find a shop... ouch.
Jun 16 2007 11:49PM
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Casey
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actually, there is a full centimeter difference between nordica and salomon.
Jun 16 2007 11:52PM
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nzpete
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Hardly shitty advice when you look at the situation, he's buying online and he can't try them on locally. Size 26.5 is intended for a 26.5cm foot so that's his best bet.

Worth mentioning, 26.5 is actually exactly the same as a 26.0 shell but with a slightly thinner innerboot. How big is your foot when you measure it yourself?
Jun 17 2007 6:03AM
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ninjea
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a friend of mine works at salomon and tells me that their sizeing isn't the exact same as other companies. Go to a salomon store and try on one of their boots and buy the same size.
Jun 17 2007 12:22PM
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tha_CF
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yea, listen to the shop guy. Generally your boots are smaller then your shoe size. I have a 12.5 and rock a 28 boot
Jun 17 2007 1:06PM
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tha_CF
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also, go smaller, because if your boots are to big, they cant make them smaller, but if there too small, they can always make them bigger.
Jun 17 2007 1:08PM
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pblcenemy101
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The more you ski each year the smaller you want your boot size. I wear a 26.5 and have a 11 shoe size... depending on your amount of skiing your bot size should be around two sizes smaller than the chart. Soo you should pick your boot on what the boot fitter says and how it feels on your foot.
Jun 17 2007 1:12PM
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comeatmebro
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27
Jun 17 2007 1:14PM
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General_Shredgnar
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Ok Im going to get a 27, and I'll probably need the boot to be fitted since when I tried my friends my toe hit the front
Jun 19 2007 12:53PM
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shagalabagala
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dude your toe touching the front isn't a bad thing-- you want the boots to be snug and they'll almost definitely get broken in and end up feeling just dandy. 
but yeah talk to cayuga ski they're really really good with boots.
Jun 19 2007 1:04PM
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General_Shredgnar
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Ok I purchased the 27. Lets hope for the best
Jun 19 2007 1:12PM
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TimothyLord
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yeh get a 27. some room to grow
Jun 19 2007 1:22PM
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DynastarriderGP
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yeah, boots are jeff's specialty, he really knows what he's talking about, trust him
Jun 19 2007 1:41PM
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