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Thoughts on the new marker bindings?
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what do you all think? They kinda seem like the old line bindings with-out the plate witch would be a sick concept!
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All the reviews and feedback Ive seen say that they are great. Hopefully not like reactors at all though...
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i heard the jester has a pivot heel
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they look realy sweet but im realy not a huge fan of there previous bindings
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i dont think anyone was either
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people it is not the same design as the reactors at all
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Marker will always remind me of shit.
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they are a solid binding, but if weight is a concern of yours, then forget it.
i will be getting the duke for sure, i need an AT set-up.
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i broke markers. i got em for free tho.
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sam here and personally i really dont like marker
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Wrong. No pivot. No reactor technology at all.
From what I've heard, they are solid, but I want to give them a season or two on the open market before I decide one way or the other.
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What are they supposed to be priced at? I really don't see people deferring to Ross/Look in return for a Marker. Even if quality is the same, people will still buy rossy/look over Marker.
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I think the Duke is sitting right at $500 retail, and the Jester is less, not sure how much less...maybe $300? Can't remember off the top of my head, it's been a couple monthes since I looked at the book.
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I'm going to try it before I make my choice, but it's new/a change, so I'm up for it. Either way better things will come out of it.
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DIN range 6-16 3: Triple Pivot Elite Toe & Inter–Pivot Heel
dude thats what marker says ^ that they pivot - but that bieng said i still agree with the rest of your statement
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Which ones are we talking about?
The Duke or Jester?
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I was sceptical at first, this being marker of course, but everything I have heard about the Duke is that it is as good or better than the hype. Which is staggering. Some people say they will never need another binding, for alpine or touring. I plan on picking up at pair at the end of next season, first off seeing how durability plays out and to save on price.
From what I understand, the Jester is a slightly lighty version (no plate underneath with the walk-mode) but otherwise identical, leading me to believe this will be a solid 16 DIN binding. It and the STH 16 will probably be fairly close competition.
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The DUKE seems like its pretty money.... $450 is alot though even though it is a BOMBER AT binding.
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Has anyone actually seen these in person? I'm just curious because after looking closely at the pictures on proctorjones I realized that they are either photoshop renderings or renderings out of a 3D modeling program.
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The only difference is that the duke has a "climbing mechanism".
proctorjones
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jester on far right ski
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poopoo. im just saying that cause of the toe realease though, even though i have no clue if they still have it
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The Duke is definitely interesting... bit pricey tho, shit.
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bushfield had um up at momentum and they look soo dope
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i rode them at a demo at the end of last winter. didnt really have a chance to push them hard but they seem solid. if you are looking for an a/t binding id definately take a good look at the dukes. i didnt have skins with me so i didnt tour around in them but from talking with the reps and checking them out they seem like they might be worth the hype
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word on the streets is they are releasing a new binding next season that will start at 229 or so. its supposed to have the same small footprint but has aluminum or some other metal instead of whatever it has currently that brought that price up so much. any heard anything about this yet?
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not sure about that, but i heard the jesters and dukes are going up in price next season
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if anyone want some close detailed pics, my jesters are currently not mounted due to the snappage of my skis. i could take some photographs
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Yeah, do it.
I'm curious if the heel actually does pivot, I've heard different stories, and I know the Duke doesn't, sooo.....
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The heel doesnt pivot. I have em and I love em though.
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I KNEW IT!
Sorry neon_sneakers, but I told you so.
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I put some skis with jesters in a vice, and put a boot in it, and tried to see if the binding would move a little bit like all other bindings do, but that was not the case with the jesters. I was getting my boot to bend and flex in ways that I had never thought it would go in, and the bindings didn't move at all. I'm getting a pair of them off shop form over the summer, so its not gonna be that expensive. They are also lighter than any other marker 14 din binding.
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jesters are sick! for wide skis I would not use anything else...
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are they next years? might be pointless if not, as i heard they are changing for next year
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all marker bindings (except duke and jester) are approved pieces of shit. they pre-release like none other and are horrible pieces of ass
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The metal comp 14 and 20s are bomber. andy and pep ride em in Idea.
ALso the jester and the duke are unchanged for next season. There is a lighter weight, lower 12 din, and more plastic version of both bindings coming out called the griffin and the i cant remember the little duke version.
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^^I dunno man, the biometric toe piece is screaming torn ACL
and the new duke is called the Baron, it's replaced useless metal parts w/ plastic, the din is lower, it's .3 pounds lighter, and it's retailing at like 370
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Can you explain why that is?
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I believe that the biometric toes does a great job under normal skiing, but when you start jumping with them, they release cause the toes are built to release easily. The Comp series are the race stock bindings, they are metal, and designed to not release unless absolutely necessary.
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i have dukes mounted on my scratch bcs if you want a picture
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Yeah, I was just asking him to explain his reasoning, or if it was just something he heard about the biometric toe. The toe is actually a neat design with the entire housing shifting sideways for the release. Only real problem is that people seem to break them so much, I don't know that I've ever heard of someone being injured because of improper releasing.
But you're definitely right about the higher DIN comp series, they are very legit and solid.
I wouldn't have any qualms about riding them.
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they are not even close to the same design.
I dont understand how people can just look at something and say " oh it looks like those shitty ones, they must suck."
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