a while back i traded NPM for these, but the more ive thought about it they areant going to be getting the use they deserve. they are 179's. i live in michigan and am going to go out west on one or two trips this winter and i dont wanna lug them out there on the change that theres no powder and have a ski with 90cm of running surface. long story short i want something regular camber, and i would trade for lizzies or bc wrs/brigades plus cash or just cash. and ill sell with or w/ out bindings.