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Bindings on hellbents

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mtsteeze406
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so i have a pair of 179 hellbents, and im debating what bindings to put on em'. i have a pair of marker 1800 comps, and a pair of rossi FKS 15's....
Jun 6 2007 9:17PM
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tjski
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go with rossi!!!! marker is for sure to poop out on you in a season or so.
Jun 6 2007 9:19PM
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Love_Wins.
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Eeek...neither?
I've heard the FKS tears out easy cause of the tight heel pattern, and the markers...well, they're markers, and therefore should never be used on any ski.
Sell the markers and grab a pair of High-end Salomons or Deadbolts, those would probably do best.
Jun 6 2007 9:19PM
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bigwhite.steeze
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100% agree with this statement
Jun 6 2007 9:21PM
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=nick=
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out of the 4 people i know(including myself) who have had/have hellbents 3 used fks. id say go for those.
Jun 6 2007 9:23PM
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mtsteeze406
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yeah i was planning on using the fks, but andy mahre uses the marker just thought id ask. and fuck salomon, i judst dont like the way they feel and i have had a bad experience.
Jun 6 2007 9:26PM
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Love_Wins.
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Clearly weren't on a high-end Solly, the 916 (and other comparable, metal bindings) are solid as all get out.
Jun 6 2007 9:29PM
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mtsteeze406
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yes i was on a high end pair. a friend is on thier am team and gave me a pair of the heavy duty ones. i still thought they felt a bit wierd
Jun 6 2007 9:33PM
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Love_Wins.
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Which model?
Jun 6 2007 9:44PM
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mtsteeze406
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916 lab. they are black and had a shit load of metal. i still liked the fks more.
Jun 6 2007 9:50PM
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MALONE
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FKS no question, fuck the naysayers
Jun 6 2007 9:55PM
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CamBrowne
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if you like the feel of the FKS then go with them
but i would say go with the deadbolts since u dont like salomon and the deadbolt is the only other binding with a larger screw pattern
Jun 6 2007 9:58PM
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mtsteeze406
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^^^i havent heard anything about the deadbolt. i just thought it was a binding in the proggress, as in something 4frnt needed to modify. but apperently not...??
Jun 6 2007 10:02PM
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Love_Wins.
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Oh word, I like the FKS best too, but there are some skis I just wouldn't mount it on (JP vs. Julien, for one) because the likelihood of tearing them out is too great. I just know that the Hellbent is a soft core ski and very wide, so that and a tight screw pattern can be trouble. Just something to consider.
Jun 6 2007 10:05PM
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MALONE
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they are VIST bindings wwith a new graphic but still not good, FKS I serious gypsy.
Jun 6 2007 10:05PM
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mtsteeze406
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ok thanks. yeah the bents' are very soft. so im definently gonna consider. thanks
Jun 6 2007 10:08PM
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BigJew
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If they're mounted properly you shouldn't have any problems with the bindings ripping out.
Jun 6 2007 10:24PM
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mtsteeze406
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what qualifies as properly mounted to you?
Jun 6 2007 10:34PM
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MALONE
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thats the dumbest post I have ever read, really though I mean it.
Jun 6 2007 10:42PM
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Love_Wins.
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He's wrong.
Proper mounting is essential no matter what ski/binding you're using, but some skis and bindings, when put together have a higher chance of problems occuring, it's just a fact.

Bindings with tight screw patterns are nice because they do very little to disrupt the natural flex of the ski, but the trade off is that on cetain skis they tend to be easier to tear out. Skis that are very wide are prime examples, the increased torque put on the binding/ski interface causes more stress, and therefore a higher likelihood of a rip-out, particularly on skis with soft cores.
Jun 6 2007 10:43PM
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=nick=
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ha word.
1. drill holes with correct drillbit and use a jig.
2. drip elmers in holes
3. wait a few minutes.
4. screw in bindings


youre done.
Jun 6 2007 10:43PM
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MALONE
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right....... but with a rockerd POW ski how often do you think your "on edge" with enough torque to pull a binding out?
I have homies wqith ARG's and pontoons who rode them all winter with p18's (fks) on both pairs no problems, oh yeah and there is also these things called HELI COILS.
Jun 6 2007 10:49PM
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mtsteeze406
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yeah but im not just skiing powder on these. i plan on skiing them all year and i enjoy buttering and messing around.
Jun 6 2007 11:13PM
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=nick=
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how much you weigh. if youre a lightweight thats even more reason to not worry about it
Jun 6 2007 11:14PM
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mtsteeze406
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im 160 about
Jun 6 2007 11:16PM
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dirty_dreb
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WHOOOO DEADBOLTS WHOOOOOO PLASTIC
Jun 6 2007 11:27PM
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cobra_commander
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don't worry
Jun 6 2007 11:31PM
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mtsteeze406
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wat about those new markers...meant for park skiing? i think they are called the "duke" or something like that. i am probably entirley wrong though...
Jun 6 2007 11:33PM
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FNJ
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the duke is the AT binding and the jester is the alpine
Jun 6 2007 11:35PM
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Jake...
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i cant complain about my 916 labs
Jun 6 2007 11:39PM
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Rooddss
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deadbolts dude, their rock solid
Jun 6 2007 11:43PM
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=nick=
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no
Jun 6 2007 11:44PM
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Love_Wins.
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Well I dunno...how often do people put JPs (also a pow ski) on edge hard enough to rip turntable heels out? And it's not only that, think about landing bad on a big air and the stress that causes. ARGs aren't very soft skis either. I'm just saying it's something to think about.
And I'm well aware of heli-cois, but having to go that route after ripping out a binding, and moving both mounts is a pain in the ass, not to mention that it makes the ski significantly weaker. I've ripped out a PX heel with heli-coils in place, and that heel has alot wider pattern than the turntable.
Jun 6 2007 11:44PM
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Rooddss
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yea..
Jun 7 2007 12:03AM
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cobra_commander
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how about we ask malone, did you ski your Jp's with fks or p-18's?  do you ski hard? did they rip out?
Jun 7 2007 12:09AM
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jca
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i am putting 185s on mine
Jun 7 2007 12:10AM
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Mahre
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I prefer JB Weld.....
Jun 7 2007 12:42AM
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cobra_commander
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I prefer Duct tape
Jun 7 2007 12:43AM
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mtsteeze406
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wat is a JB weld?
Jun 7 2007 1:55AM
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TWoods
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Deadbolts suck... i have seen sooo many deadbolts destroyed.

I know a lot disagree, but high end sollies are allright, I still like any sort of turntable heel look or rossi i can get my hands on better than anything else though
Jun 7 2007 2:23AM
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hollygrove
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What about Mojo 15?
I've never heard any problems with those.
Jun 7 2007 10:59AM
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mtsteeze406
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indeed
Jun 7 2007 11:08AM
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Dan-Man
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the rossis
Jun 7 2007 11:37AM
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Skipig25
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yea, mojos (tyrolia) are so under-rated
Jun 7 2007 12:06PM
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powfoka
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i put fks on mine and have had no problems whatsoever....
Jun 7 2007 2:13PM
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poofartpee
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rossi no motherfuckin cock suckin boob sucking penis masturbating competition
Jun 7 2007 3:08PM
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FNJ
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do you still think it'd be okay for the fks if it was a second mount?
Jun 7 2007 9:03PM
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bigwhite.steeze
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ehhhhh
Jun 7 2007 9:15PM
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=nick=
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it wouldnt matter as long as the holes werent near each other
Jun 7 2007 9:38PM
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MALONE
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yea, yea, no. But i never skied mine out of tyhe pow, people tear out of that ski becuase it has a fuinny core, and its alot easier to get your jjs hard on edge than a pair of ROCKERED k2's, I'm just saying go with the fks
Jun 7 2007 10:24PM
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FNJ
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how far apart do you think they would need to be
Jun 7 2007 11:05PM
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