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what the F**K is going on here huh?!

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sherLocke
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today i saw a commercial for a program to help keep kids away from ciggaretts and other drugs and alcohol. and if you call the number they will send you packets of information and help in keeping your kids ciggarette free. they kept emphazising(sp) the ciggarette free part too. you know who sponsered the commercial, and who started this program? Phillip Morris, the biggest tobacco company in the industry. what the balls is going on here? are they scheming something? why would they advertise against their own products? later.
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Jul 23 2003 10:14PM
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Ds91260
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theyre tired of those truth faggots making those gay ass commercials
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Jul 23 2003 10:16PM
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Phrosty
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phillip morris has to advocate smokefree kids, to avoid lawsuits and make it look like they really care. but really, the more kids who know about smokes the better, even if it is negative advertising.


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Jul 23 2003 10:18PM
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ReggaeConcept1
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they're basically required to by law. it also prevents many lawsuits and the loss of millions of dollars


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Jul 23 2003 10:34PM
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Phrosty
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thank you for basicly restating my position on the subject.


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Jul 23 2003 10:39PM
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sherLocke
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why is this the first time ive ever seen a commericial against smokes put out by a tobacco company?


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Jul 23 2003 10:41PM
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ReggaeConcept1
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because you never noticed before. its not a brand new thing, but its pretty recent


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Jul 23 2003 10:41PM
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DFT1080
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ds91260, the truth adds against tobacco are extremely good and deliver a tangible message to minors. However, the truth commercials against marijuana are gay and filled with decieving lies.

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Jul 23 2003 10:45PM
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mattwalker
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for the same reason beer companies say drink their beer responsibly because it sucks when you are drunk on there beer, drive home. and smash into a mini van full of nuns...because you are drunk on there beer, they look bad

the ciggaretts companies know thier products are the same as injecting some rat poison into your blood every day. They dont want kids on that. But once they turn 18 they cant stop buggin them about their ciggaretts and how good they are...



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its all about covering their asses


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Jul 24 2003 12:19AM
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Itsbackfliptime
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tobacco is whacko...if youre a teen. Brought to you by Lorillard Tobacco Company. I think its funny how they slip in the if youre a teen thing. Saying its okay to smoke when youre older.

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Jul 24 2003 2:04AM
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Phrosty
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I fucking hate how they try to be all hip and with it. I mean please, just present us the facts in a profeshional way.


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Jul 24 2003 2:05AM
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DrPepper
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haha yeah i saw that advertisement also, it suprised my mom, but didnt suprise me. its probably some part of multi million dollar lawsuit settlement. or to help prevent such lawsuits.
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Jul 24 2003 2:07AM
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freezed
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the tobbaco is whacko thing is so stupid, but i think they made it that way on purpose...its a form of reverse pschology, in my opinion.


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Jul 24 2003 2:08AM
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Lateralis
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theres no hope with dope!


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Sex with male prostitutes while tripping, my anti-drug.

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Jul 24 2003 2:31AM
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ozzy, the anti drug. no one wants to end up as messed as him.

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Jul 24 2003 9:52AM
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Str8LaceFan
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I got that packet in the mail. Thank god companies sell your name to Phillip Morris.
Jul 24 2003 11:19AM
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Nickskier
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i dont know guys, i totally belive phillip morris cares about the children
Jul 24 2003 11:55AM
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sherLocke
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phillip morris can suck a camels cock while i stab it with a rusty spoon in the eye. cigarrettes should be made illegal and weed should be legal. just have the tobacco companies switch over. whens the last time youve heard of somebody dying from marijuana? mm hmm thats right. and tons of people die everyday from cigarette related complications. america is fucked up. and yes i am being an opiniated bastard, leave me alone.
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Jul 24 2003 12:55PM
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Itsbackfliptime
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marijuana smoke is just as bad for you as cigarrette smoke. Most commercials say its worse.

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Jul 24 2003 1:48PM
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Phrosty
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it's backflip time is retarded. there are no toxins in mj. while there are thousand in tobacco and the paper is soaked in shit, so your getting a lot more shit in your lungs than just tobacco.


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Jul 24 2003 2:13PM
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stixonmtholly
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pretty soon in order to smoke you'll have to sign a waiver stating you won't sue them for using their product.


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Jul 24 2003 2:27PM
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sherLocke
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yeah itsbackfliptime, marijuana might have more tar in it, and im sure it does. it doesnt have any added toxins in it like most all cigs do. and that brings me to my next question. why do cig companies put in the toxins anyways. why not just make it pure tobacco? they are killing their own loyal customers. tobacco wouldnt be so worried about if it was just tobacco.
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Jul 24 2003 3:45PM
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seward
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how boot this

weed and cigarettes will both kill you over time.

boo ya.

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Jul 24 2003 4:13PM
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CMUSkiFreak
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ok first of all the commercials are part of the lawsuit settlements, the big tobacco companies HAVE to do it. Secondly marijuana has now been found to contribute to mouth, nasal, throat, and lung cancer. your lungs are meant to have oxygen in them, they turn black and cells are damaged thanks in the most part to the smoke itself, be it from pot or tobacco. the other additives in cigarettes dont help, but they also have additive free cigarettes. the only thing pot has over tobacco is that it is not physically addicting(both are mentally addicting). Pot will not be made legal because it impairs you. contrary to many cigarette smokers beliefs cigarettes do not calm you down they are stimulants, they actually speed up your heart rate. cigarettes will not be made illegal thanks to the tobacco companies monies and influences, not to mention the amount of jobs the tobacco industry creates.


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Jul 24 2003 5:01PM
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sherLocke
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ok that still doesnt answer my question. WHY THE FUCK DO TOBACCO COMPANIES PUT ADDITIVES IN THEIR CIGS? JUST MAKE THEM SHIT FREE AND ROLL SOME PURE TOBACCO LEAF UP IN THERE. WHATS THE DEAL?!
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Jul 24 2003 8:03PM
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they advertise because as they say in show biz...any exposure is good exposure
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Jul 24 2003 8:07PM
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CMUSkiFreak
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they put the additives in to keep the cigarettes 'fresh' so the tobacco doesnt dry out quickly and get nasty


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Jul 25 2003 12:11PM
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Lateralis
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same amount of tar in weed as tobacco?? are you retarded seriously


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Jul 25 2003 12:12PM
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stixonmtholly
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it has also been documented that the cig companies add nicotine (the most addictive drug on the market)so that you'll hook your self into buying their stuff. I hadn't heard of soaking the papers it's rolled in that I find interesting. oh and the cmufreak is right weed is just as bad if not worse for you then cigs. More people die of drinking and driving every year the smoking cigs and driving.


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Jul 25 2003 12:22PM
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govmnet made them do it in cort setment or someting




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Jul 25 2003 12:27PM
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Weed is fucking clean compared to cigaretts. What the hell are you on? Tobacco has so much shit in it compared to marijuana. Its just the truth faggots making up some more propaganda bullshit.

My dad said 'if you want to smoke something, tell me and Ill get you some pot, cause cigarettes are a hell of a lot worse for you.
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Jul 25 2003 12:32PM
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stixonmtholly
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inhaling any kind of smoke is bad for you whether it has chemicals added to it or not. Plus all you people out their who think pot is so clean. DO YOU KNOW WHO IS GROWING IT??? Drug Dealers and we all know that they are an honest and caring bunch who are looking out for our well being. This is for those of you that don't have a phototron in your closet for growing it your self.


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Jul 25 2003 12:41PM
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Freeskifro
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Lungwise..weed is just as bad for you as squares but the thing is, do you chainsmoke joints? Probably not. If you do you are either pimp as hell or you are lying.
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Jul 25 2003 1:02PM
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CMUSkiFreak
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there is a saying that is actually true, smoking 1 joint is the same as smoking 8 cigrettes. plus when you are tokin you hold the smoke in dont you, hmmm you dont usually do that for quite as long when you smoke... hmmmm think about it before you post something dumb


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Jul 25 2003 1:11PM
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Lateralis
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^^ no i believe that if you smoke 7 joints,thats equivalent to 1 cigarette,


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Jul 25 2003 1:59PM
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sherLocke
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didnt i say that weed has more tar and shit in it than cigs? yes. BUT overall i cant see how cigs which have tons and tons and tons of chemicals in them can be better for you in the long run compared to weed which yes probabaly has pesticides and shit but cant be anywhere near as bad. and if you have a trusted source then its cool. dont buy weed thats passed through like five peoples hands. buy it directly from a grower. and even better if you know the grower personally. later.
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Jul 25 2003 2:04PM
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yeah it has to do with the lawsuits they lost. but yes, in the end its just more advertising for them.

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Jul 25 2003 2:08PM
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at my school they tell us 1 joint=20cigs, i was bullshit
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Jul 25 2003 2:16PM
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Lateralis
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fuck that shit,weed being worse than cigarettes is bullshit, do you actually think theyd use it for medicinal purposes if it was 10 times worse than cigarettes? if a person with cancer had the choice to smoke weed or cigarettes,what do you think theyd choose? obviously weed cuz its not as bad for you,it eases the pain,my uncle has lupus disease and has to take a bunch of pills but instead of taking like 5 pills at a meal he smokes a joint and is set for a couple hours,


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Jul 25 2003 2:28PM
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No publicity is bad publicity.

1. It gets kids learning about ciggies, it probably has pictures of his ciggarettes on all the pamphlets etc..
2. It puts names on mailing lists.
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Jul 25 2003 3:23PM
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never seen the TRUTH adds bout weed...

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Jul 25 2003 9:33PM
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rebel
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back to the origional topic... around 70% of cigarette revenues in Canada go to the government as 'taxes' (I'm not too sure what the actual % is but it's damn high). The Canadian (I'm not sure if it's federal or provincial or both) government sets the prices cigarettes. Still they've had anti smoking campagns for years. They probably spend 0.3% of their cigarette revenues on telling people that smoking is bad. Really, it's all just a load of bull. You're going go fucking die anyway. And once you're gone, and everyone you know is gone, is anyone really gonna care? Fuck the world and everyone in it, do what you wanna do.
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Jul 25 2003 9:55PM
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Ya but a shitload of that cigarette tax money will go towards paying for the shitload of medical problems they cause.
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Jul 26 2003 1:07AM
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Itsbackfliptime
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the cigarette companies add ammonia and stuff to make the nicotine more addictive. I saw it on a truth ad.

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Jul 26 2003 1:21AM
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wolfmansbro
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wow i cnat beleave how uneducated most of you are. Its a fact that '1 joint' = about 4-8 cigs (depending on quality and type). the reason you dont here about people dying from pot is because by the time you develope cancer you are older anyways and have stopped smoking pot, but pot does have cancer causing chemicals in them too. secondly you smoke far less pot then cigs so its less smoke entering your lungs. but its the tar in the pot that gets you high but also has more chemicals in it because there is no filter. Just about all cigs have filters on them.
3rd if you say say smoking a bong acts as a filter. then yes you are right but it also reduces the THC entering your lungs so in return you are smoking more which averages out to be the same as smoking a joint
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Jul 26 2003 1:36AM
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theBOSS.
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hmm, so you're saying that smoking a natural plant is more toxic than smoking something that contains ammonia and nicotine, plus a million other added chemicalss?
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Jul 26 2003 1:54AM
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wolfmansbro
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its not that they are more dangerous its just that there is no filter on a bowl and cigs have filters which reduce the tar content
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Jul 26 2003 2:00AM
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Lateralis
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jmwski7, you said tar in weed gets you high??? nooooooooo i got one word for you THC!!!!!!!!!!


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