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Muslim Poll Results

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bailer
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It’s all over the news but a recent poll on American Muslims shows that 5% of them have a favourable view of Al-Quida. Does this not freak anyone out at all? In the news they portray these results as if they are a good thing and that it’s only 5%. Five percent means that there are ~150,000 Muslims that think Al-Quida does good things. What the fuck?
May 23 2007 2:48PM
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MitchPee
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Wow...

Was this a Fox News poll? Sounds pretty fucking biased and ridiculous to me.
May 23 2007 3:35PM
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ThaLetterM.
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i saw on CNN that 20% of american muslims feel that suicide bombing is okay
May 23 2007 3:40PM
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TheButterHashira
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well when every other fucking channel is left wing the conservative people need a channel.
theres a muslim girl in my class that says acts of terrorism such as car bombs and shit like that are ok and she thinks hezbollah is a kind organization building hospitals and roads.
May 23 2007 3:47PM
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ThaLetterM.
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i have a question. why cant we just have non biased news stations? it doesnt seem that hard
May 23 2007 3:48PM
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steezmonger
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Absolute fear mongering bullshit.
"There are lies, damn lies and statistics."
America is at war, its propaganda, dont worry.
May 23 2007 3:51PM
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010
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because there is more money in news that people want to hear.
May 23 2007 3:52PM
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MitchPee
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You're an idiot, you really are. Please name another "left wing" news station other than possibly MSNBC.

Hizbollah is doing a lot more for the people of Lebanon than the government ever has. They ARE building hospitals and roads. Their radical military actions just cover the fact that they are doing well for the country. The country of Lebanon has had the shit kicked out of it by Israel for the past 25 years.

Just remember
"Soldiers emptyin' the clips at little kids and they moms
Are just like a desperate motherfucker strapped to a bomb"
May 23 2007 3:53PM
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TheButterHashira
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no. mother fuckers strapped to bombs are crazy ass people convinced by cowards that they are going to get 70 virgins. soldiers from the us in iraq are brave people that chose to go there and they walk around in uniform knowing that some radical could come and kill them at any moment while they are walking down the street. and most soldiers dont shoot at little kids and moms, but if they do it is to save lives because they might be the desperate motherfucker
May 23 2007 4:00PM
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010
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high quality post. Immortal Technique's ability to make music that sells does not make them an expert in world affairs.
May 23 2007 4:03PM
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MitchPee
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You honestly think people just blow themselves up because they think they get 70 virgins? I really pity you. You have no clue about the world, and it's sad.

Soldiers are brave people, but that doesn't change the fact that they are the same as the people they are shooting at.

They're all pawns in a stupid war, you're missing the entire concept.
May 23 2007 4:04PM
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Capt.Flannel
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In the last few days I've heard/seen this (not exact percentages, but very similar) on a few news channels actually - Fox, NPR, and CNN I believe were the ones.
May 23 2007 4:04PM
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00000000
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very true
May 23 2007 4:11PM
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010
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would you be so kind as to enlighten everyone here? Just what is the world all about?
May 23 2007 4:13PM
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jp_draves
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hes just trying to make a point and at least he's supporting his argument. Hes right about most of it too.
May 23 2007 4:20PM
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TheButterHashira
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you just contradicted yourself in the same sentence.
May 23 2007 4:20PM
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Capt.Flannel
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maybe he meant that they were brave pawns?
May 23 2007 4:20PM
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Capt.Flannel
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though, if this classified information is truthful and definitive, then they are hardly pawns of a stupid war.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/05/23/bush.iraq/index.html

May 23 2007 4:22PM
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Capt.Flannel
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shit, forgot to finish.

"of a stupid war; just a mismanaged war"
May 23 2007 4:23PM
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TheButterHashira
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i didnt mean to include the part about pawns in the quote but a message in red told me i altered what was posted idk
May 23 2007 4:24PM
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Capt.Flannel
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even though you didn't alter anything? That's been happening to me a lot lately as well.
May 23 2007 4:25PM
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TheButterHashira
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yeah whoever said its a pointless war was just thinking of right now. when we went in it was justified and has been about like vietnam because you cant tell whos a terrorist and whos a normal person
May 23 2007 4:35PM
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Capt.Flannel
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did you read the article, though? I agree with you (I think), but the article I posted the link to gives direct connections with Bin Laden/al Queda and Iraq.
May 23 2007 4:37PM
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ATLskier
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I think it was 30% and yes thats CNN, not fox news.


That is fucking scary right there.
May 23 2007 4:37PM
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MitchPee
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So wait, why was Iraq a justified war?
May 23 2007 4:37PM
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Capt.Flannel
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damnet, every post today I hit enter before I finish.

This direct connection would be tangible justification for going into Iraq (not saying that anybody SHOULD agree if this is true, just pointing out new info) and would actually make the 'pawns of a stupid war' comment rather irrelevant, assuming that it's truthful information, and also assuming that the person who posted the 'pawns of a stupid war' wasn't a conscientious objector in general.
May 23 2007 4:39PM
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whattheshit
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anyone here watch the news high?


May 23 2007 4:40PM
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ATLskier
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I think it's justified now. A bunch of our soldiers were captured by Al Queda. So terrorists are there. Theses motherfuckers need to be brought to justice.
May 23 2007 4:41PM
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Capt.Flannel
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and 'tangible evidence' is just in reference to information that isn't from Wolfowitz.
May 23 2007 4:42PM
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STREETS
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I actually do honestly think that those muslim radicals believe that they will get 70 virgins. You have to be mentally unstable to even think about walking into a cafe with tnt strapped to yourself and then blow yourself up sending shrapnel into innocent people. If you are capable of doing that then I think your capable of beleiving things like getting 70 virgins...
May 23 2007 4:47PM
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TheButterHashira
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yeah ur right. its just been a hard war to fight so it looks bad but we need to get the job done
May 23 2007 5:42PM
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Ahmets_Brother
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my point of view, being muslim, is that strapping yourself to a bomb and killing innocent civilians is rediculous. I believe that theres jihad, then theres just plain irrational rediculous actions. torturing and killing other muslims is of the greatest sins. As for other things, i feel that the US gov is absolutely retarded. The consequences of fighting a war like this is so blatantly clear and they still cannot comprehend it. If you fight against a people who have no unified force and also have a corrupted religious vision, bombing/suicide, hostages and such are their only way to fight a super power. With concern to the war, i think the US should get the fuck out basically, its too dangerous and not worth the money and soldiers lives. Let those people kill themselves, its not a US issue. After removing sadaam, its not a UN issue. Democracy will never work in an area like that, so dont even try. To make it clear also, i say terrorism and al queda's tactics are evil
May 23 2007 5:45PM
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gregor
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Steezmonger is right. You need to take statistics like this with a pinch of salt. Its propaganda in its purest form, statistical misrepresentation.
May 23 2007 6:26PM
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bailer
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Why does it sound biased? Is it because you don't like the results? It was done by an independent research group called the Pew Research Center.

http://people-press.org/
May 23 2007 6:38PM
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BFFset.
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same type of thing as why the "terror alert system" was made
May 23 2007 6:54PM
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Pwn.Mode
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Dirka Dirkas are going to kill us all!!! take cover!~
May 23 2007 7:04PM
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RudyGarmisch
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Iraq was never a justified war, so no.  At the time of our presidents announcement, North Korea was threatening the world with nukes and was being downright nasty on the world table. At best, we had sketchy intelligence that (suprise suprise) turned out to be wrong. Kinda makes you wonder why we invaded when there were much more prominent and pressing problems that needed (and still have not had) resolution.

It really leaves you to wonder if the war was not preemptive, but premeditated. But that can be a thread in itself.
May 23 2007 7:10PM
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FUUUCK
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hahahha, that takes me back
May 23 2007 7:17PM
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FUUUCK
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=WWyJJQbFago
May 23 2007 7:22PM
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MitchPee
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It sounds biased because it is such a general outcome. I mean come on you can't actually take that seriously.
May 23 2007 7:24PM
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Casey
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absolutely
May 23 2007 8:18PM
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GnarBurger
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i hate muslims.  (join our peaceful religion or die!!!) grr
May 23 2007 8:33PM
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doublexl
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i am freaaaaking out right now. omg u have no fucking idea. 150000!!!!!
May 23 2007 8:46PM
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Capt.Flannel
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uhh, left winged station? Sure they have Olbermann but don't forget about Tucker and Scarborough... certainly not 'only' lefty; they're pretty balanced in regards to the station's programming and the hosts of those shows being at both ends.
May 23 2007 9:26PM
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shagalabagala
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I really hope you're making some sort of not funny joke.  
May 23 2007 9:44PM
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mysterymanjgj
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i also saw on CNN that 99.9% of their polls are created to try and sway public opinion and are complete political bullshit and that 79% of people who listen to their polls are suckers
May 23 2007 10:43PM
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Krush
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people always say things like "only a few muslims in the middle east make the whole religion look bad". but then why dont more muslims actually speak out about this. i guess i dont know how against all this fanatic shit most muslims really are. i mean, if people were making me look bad i would want to straighten shit out, ya know?
May 23 2007 10:56PM
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