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i have 3 skis, 4frnt STLs in 177. 2 with stencil paintjobs, 1 unpainted. 1 ski has some core shots and edge pull out (only an inch, so you could mix um together or something and get 2 good skis. definatly still ridable on snow for a rail/jib/butter ski, and lots of fun since they are wicked soft. would be a PERFECT water ramp ski for you camp kids, or for urbans. bindings are not included. the painted skis have been mounted 1.5 times (heels), and the unpainted once. 28.5 326mm