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I want bindings burlier than 912ti. do i need 916's?
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i currently rock 912ti's with a din set about 9 because i like the low weight of the binding and where it typically releases at that setting for normal on-piste stiff and park, and i'm set on keeping 912's on my msp's and my elizabeths, but i'm going to be getting a pair of charger-ish skis here soon (ant's, 190 got's, 189 vct's, something in that vein), and i want a burlier binding for this setup, since these will be used primarily for silverton/utah/jackson type stuff (no park), and i typically break on average one pair of 912's every season (thanks though salomon for sending me a brand new pair almost every time i've warrantied).
i don't really plan on going much past 11 or 12 on the din setting, but i just can't decide if a 916 is too much. 914 would probably be ok but i can't remember if they're more similar to the 912 or 916 in construction, and if they have the same heelplate as the 912 then i'll just end up breaking that like i usually do on my 912's. i do plan on this setup lasting me quite a while and i know for that reason alone 916's would be a good choice, and the only reason i'm even asking is i found a decent deal on some 916's ($150) and just can't quite convince myself to pick them up. also considering fks 155's (if i can get some for cheap) but i've just always kind of preferred the salomons for no specific reason.
guide me please oh knowledgeable ones. i'll probably end up getting them i just need some reassurance.
and for reference i'm about 6'2" 175lbs and ski pretty hard but i'm not a balls to the wall psycho huckbeast or anything like that either.
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wow i have no idea how this would up in the van/whis regional forum. please ignore or mods please delete.
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Moved to ski equipment.
I hope you don't need 916s because they're almost impossible to find.
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is $150 a good deal on them? i found a racer dude selling multiple pairs of 916's and 920's either one for that price. i'll divulge my source if anyone wants but i'd appreciate some advice first.
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if theyre in good condition thats a legit deal.
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914 labs (all metal construction of the 916s, with a lighter spring),
the new Freestyle bindings they are making, whatever they are called,
old 997s
all pretty hard to find. grab some FKSs thou, easier to find, lighter, and better ski feel. youll be hooked once you see how they allow the ski to flex.
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how the hell do u ride 912s at your size, you seem like you want to/are charging pretty hard, especially if you are considering those skis, how often do you adjust the wings and how have u not blowen them up, but as for binding suggestions, try to find some old p14s or fks 155s,
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I think this is untrue. The 914 lab, to my knowledge, still has a plastic toe piece and some plastic in the heel casing. While it is stronger than the 912, there are worlds of difference between the 914 and 916.
Also, the FKS 155 and 185 are every bit as heavy as the 916 I believe. However, I would agree with you that they are great bindings, they can rip out of bigger skis with a softer core due to the extremely small screw pattern on the heel. Don't get me wrong, I buy some in a heart beat, I just wanted to clarify :)
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i should read the entire thing before posting...sorry, but yeah actually i would hop on those 916s they are probably the best big mt binding out there and you seem big enough to handle them and 150 is a good deal
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the 914's would be fine i had to borrow a friends ski at this years North american freeskiing championships after some equip issues. The 914's held just fine even when i landed in a bomb hole off the second cliff and went over the bars. the skis were still on I weigh 200lbs The heel plate on the 912Ti is titanium on the 914 it is steel. I have seen many prs of 912tis with broken heels not to many 914's
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go to a swap and try to get some s999. those are the best binding salomon has ever made, they are all metal. They might be a little heavy though.
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maybe the name is wrong, it may be 914 FIS or something, but i know for a fact they make a 14 din binding identical to the 16, they are just about impossible to find tho.
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i don't really adjust the wings that much at all. i've busted multiple heelpieces on 912's (pretty sure the heeltrack is aluminum and not titanium like someone said previously), but never had any probs with the toepieces. i like 912's for the weight and if i ever pop a ski off it usually comes off right at the exact moment i start to feel a potentially damaging knee injury. to be honest, about the only time they've popped off when i haven't wanted them to is the times they've broken haha.
thanks though guys appreciate the input.
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I'm 5'9" 175lbs and I've got 916s on most of my skis. I ride my DIN between 11-13 and have never had a problem not releasing when I want to. I still ride 912tis on my park skis, but recently broke my heelpiece when the track exploded. I got new heeltracks and the 912tis are back on there but I don't know if it will stay that way. I like the weight savings, but its only neccessary on park skis, and even still I might switch those out as well because I just don't trust them.
I ride my bros atuas with fischer x17s (7-17 DIN) and have found them to be quite a good binding. For something that is light (mostly plastic) they are far more bombproof than regular salmomons or looks/rossis. At least in my experience. Depending on the year and condition of those 916s $150 is a good deal.
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Oh and the 914 FIS is a much different binding than the 914 LAB. the LAB has the same heelpiece and the 916 zz LAB (metal connecting rod from the heelpiece to the toepiece) and a regular 914 toepiece. Although I've never used them, I have heard than the problems with toes getting loose are much fewer than regular 912/914s.
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You want to wait till the STH bindings are out. Salomon's new "freeride" bindings are going to solve a ton of your problems.
The 914LAB or whatever it is would do the same, but is impossible to find. the STHs (12 DIN and a higher one) have that same 916 style heelpiece with either a super beefy Z series toepiece (saying Z series does NOT do it justice) or a 914style toe piece on the higher DIN binding. Just wait.
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i rock 914's on all my shit and they're great. i weigh like 170-180 and i ride pretty damn hard. they don't prerelease or break ever. i had a pair of ninja 916's but i sold them because they're just too damn heavy. i used to use 912's but i broke them like every two weeks. the only problem i've had with my 914's is the toe wing issue many people complain about. it's really not that big of a deal, you just have to remember to adjust it every few times you go ride. i love the 914s and i probably won't be on anything else for a while.
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