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Greatest President Ever

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skiierman
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Well with all the Bush bashing threads, I figured it'd be nice to have a change of pace and say who you think was the best president ever. I say Clinton because he was a pimp... and he helped out the national debt a lot. But mostly because he was a pimp.
May 11 2007 2:29PM
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sconniestyle
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Truman is my favorite.

May 13 2007 2:37AM
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Tasche
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Washington, Lincoln, FDR, JFK, Clinton in that order.
May 13 2007 3:46AM
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SteezePatrol
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i don't know where this name come from...i don't know why i thought of it when i saw this title, but the words are

walter cronkite?

chron - kite spelled phonetically


(fo - net- ih - kully)
May 13 2007 3:51AM
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Elijah.
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Teddy Roosevelt. Started the conservation effort in the White house, and slapped all 'dem bitches up with the rough ridaz.
May 13 2007 5:12AM
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Von
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what i was trying to say was "where did i say my opinion was the only one that existed"
And also you can curse if you want to, its your choice. I was simply pointing out that if you do curse it makes you sound immature and uneducated.
May 13 2007 5:23AM
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WikiWiki
Posts: 5584 - Karma: 426
For modern presidents its Teddy or FDR, for old ones its a toss up. But not lincoln though, the only reason he abolished slavelry was to piss off the south and cripple their economy. Also everyone think's that civil war was because of the slaves. In truth it was about power over the country and the north being more prosperous than the south. Kind of like us with Iraq, everyone thinks it was because of WMDs, when really it is just one of the factors(oil, political control...)
May 13 2007 9:37AM
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Pit_Stink
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I am the best presidant on this monther fuckin planet. Anyone want to join my cult? its called niggers of the us. ps if you wnat to.
May 13 2007 1:53PM
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Luckyscs
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Hitler.
May 13 2007 2:36PM
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jambone
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In AP US the other day we had a 30 minute conversation about how Eli Whitney was the biggest cause of the Civil War. His Cotton Gin made the South more agricultural. And interchangeable parts made the north more industrial.
May 13 2007 2:36PM
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sconniestyle
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walter cronkite was a tv anchor.

May 13 2007 2:55PM
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Von
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cough bump cough
May 14 2007 12:07AM
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Hannah.
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JFK
FDR


why do u think ppl only use the initals
May 14 2007 9:44AM
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skogenjake
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dont talk about how smart you are, you sound immature. the same goes for him. you both really didnt need to have an "IM SMARTER" fight



TEDDY ROOSEVELT
May 14 2007 12:54PM
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Von
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good point, i guess internet arguments in general are immature.
May 14 2007 12:59PM
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STACKS
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skiierman for president
May 14 2007 1:00PM
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snowbladesforlife
Posts: 2033 - Karma: -3
No, your opinion is worthless because you are a PS major. The only major more worthless is sociology. PS majors are always elitest, but have nothing to be elitest about. Just because they rehash what their teacher says in arguments doesn't equate to any form of intelligence.
May 14 2007 1:25PM
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snowbladesforlife
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Also anthropology, classics and anything involving arts are worthless.
May 14 2007 1:33PM
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Rez4frederick
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Are you and Skiierman Gay lovers or whats the deal?  Maybe you guys should go on a 'fishing trip'?
May 14 2007 1:43PM
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Rez4frederick
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You are wrong fool.  Do you even have a degree?  Probably not, so STFU.  I have a degree in Anthropology and a company actually asked me if I wanted to work for them ( I didnt even apply for the job) so I just proved you wrong, punk. 
May 14 2007 1:45PM
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snowbladesforlife
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I am getting one. Wow a fucking job offer? I got a job offer and don't even have my degree yet. All I am saying is that you didn't learn anything usable in anthropology at school, except how to waste your parents money.
May 14 2007 1:50PM
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Rez4frederick
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Ok then, what is your major than mister smart guy?  Why didnt you mention it if its so great? What are you learning right now that you are going to be so valuable to the world?  Please I want to hear it. 

So apparently learning about the evolution of the human race and how we got to where we are today is not important at all.  See in Anthropology, you do a shit ton of writing, alot of reading, alot of discussions.  Everything has to be backed up with physical evidence and experiments.  Its a real world degree that has alot of options to it.
May 14 2007 1:57PM
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Von
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I don't think that any of my teachers have ever said that Lincoln was a terrible president.
May 14 2007 2:00PM
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Von
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Whats your so high and mighty major?
May 14 2007 2:00PM
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snowbladesforlife
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I am in Econ with a minor in classics. It is by far less applied than say electical engineering, but has way more real world applications than anthro. All of antro is a joke, you are too dumb to take actual science classes, so they had to make up their own major to make science understandable. The only reason any anthro experiment or study is acclaimed is because they are peer reviewed, but your peers in anthro are retarded, so it is easy to slip by. No, it is not a real world degree that has a lot of options. When you apply for an actual job, not some shit one like research or higher learning, they will see your anthro degree and laugh (internally, not to your face) since they know you have no real world applications. You can write an opinion paper backed up with poorly designed studies, sounds useful.
May 14 2007 2:04PM
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Rez4frederick
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Ok, that is all your opinion dumbass.  So you are in Economics?  You know what thats great for you, if you like its thats fine with me.  I like studying Anthropology and I went on a field school where I got to dig up some old Indian Artifacts and I actually found an arrowhead sitting on the ground, I was soooo stoked.  Something that is like 200+ years old and i was the first person to find it sitting right on top of the ground.  We also found an arrow point that is possibly like 1000+ years old, pretty cool stuff.  I dont know about you, but I enjoy trying to paint a picture of the past.  It helps me grasp things that are happening today. So researching is a shit job?  hahahha. wow you are an idiot.  Researching is how we figure out things.

You are an idiot who assumes wayyyy to much.  I took many different science courses from Biology, Geology, Geography, Paleobiology, Ecology because an Anth major requires you take a well rounded study course at the college I went to and I loved all of them.  How the fuck is Anth not a science?  Wow you are seriously a dumbass.  Maybe the Anth professors at your college are all dumbasses, I dont know, but at the college I went to, they were some of the best professors at the school in my opinion.

So what are you going to do with your major?  Sit in an office and try to determine how much money people will spend during a certain period of time? Wow sounds interesting man.   If you really think your BAchelors degree in Economics is going to take you really far places in life than you are mistaken.  You will need a graduate degree in something too.  Same with me, I dont have a graduate degree yet, but plan on getting one someday.  By the way, you havent even graduated from college yet so you have no idea what its like in the real world.
May 14 2007 2:18PM
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Rez4frederick
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By the way, I work for an Environmental Consulting company right now.  I have my own office too, so suck it, bitch.  I make plenty of money to spend on bills with plenty extra on the side. 
And when it comes down to it, its not what major you have, but who your connections are.  Its not like whenever they hear someone has a Econ degree that they are jumping at the gun to hire them when they have no idea who the person even is.  I have a job right now, so apparently I am useful to this company with my degree.  You do not have a job.    When you get your degree and you have a solid job then you have room to talk.
May 14 2007 2:26PM
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duhamelski
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i gotta go with fdr first because he saved the world. the way he ran the country was on such a higher level than it is being run now. regan was good because a)he helped our economy alot and b)he didnt make governemtn grow. i think the best presidents make the governemtn smaller
May 14 2007 2:55PM
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jibmaster_josh
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not truman, cause he signed the papes that allowed atomic weapons to be used to end the war in  japan
May 14 2007 3:01PM
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ECfreeski3
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haha definitely
May 14 2007 6:04PM
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Gavajabra2
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Why WOULDN'T they? Would you rather have tons of people storm these citys and kill them? The Japanese should have taken our threat to heart and surrendered. I think a common misconception of the war with Japan is that we dropped 2 bombs and that was it. I watched 'The Fog of War' with Robert McNamara and he was talking about how him and his team firebombed tokyo and killed appx. 100,000 people overnight, and that in fact almost all if not all major citys in japan were bombed to the point of inrecognization.
May 14 2007 6:08PM
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duhamelski
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i just wrote a paper on this and there was definatelly no warning even about the existence of the bomb. plus, japan was preparing to surrender, but not unconditionally. the united states wanted to try every single japanese official on war crimes including the emporer, who was entire foundation of japan. nothing could work wihout him. after the war we purposely didnt try him because we knew that without him japan would be sent back to the stone age
May 14 2007 6:23PM
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Gavajabra2
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In July 1945, President Truman went to Potsdam, Germany, to meet with Churchill and Soviet premier Joseph Stalin. While there, Truman received word of the first successful test of the atomic bomb. Truman made no progress with Stalin at Potsdam. However, he was able to warn Japan that unless it surrendered, it faced complete devastation. When the Japanese ignored the ultimatum, Truman ordered the atomic bomb dropped on Japan. The target, the city of Hiroshima, was struck on August 6. Despite the horrible destruction, Japan did not surrender until a second bomb was dropped on Nagasaki, on August 9.


Not sure of the crediblity of this source but I'm fairly sure this is how it went down
May 14 2007 6:28PM
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duhamelski
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yes but the united states was presented with, but ignored the posiibility of a demonstration. it would have been easy for the US to tell japan to evacuate heroshima by some date and then drop the bomb, but they wanted to make a statement about the destruction of the bomb to russia, which is true it not a conspiracy. there are trascripts of meeting where they talk about this
May 14 2007 7:02PM
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jibmaster_josh
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there was no warning about atomic weapons, only "raining destruction that the world has never before seen". there was no mention of Fat boy or Little Man. although it saved millions of American troops, millions of Japanese CIVILIANS were killed. it is the job of the army to be willing to die for their country. but instead, they sat on their asses while tons of civillians lost their lives. Japan is lucky for the weather, or else another bomb which was slated for Tokyo would have been dropped and would have fucked up that entire country, not just Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
May 14 2007 8:46PM
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asfffffffffdd
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hahahahahaha
May 14 2007 8:53PM
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Gavajabra2
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You're a moron, We have already decimated Toyko with firebombs by this point so of course they knew what we would unleash would be bad. What do you mean by 'slated', I'm pretty sure they aimed for Hiroshima and Nagasaki, either way it's called war and alot of people died in that one.
May 14 2007 8:54PM
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III
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Hear Hear!
May 14 2007 8:59PM
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lushlaxstr
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May 14 2007 10:18PM
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CMF
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his social policies were breakthrough yet his administration had a permanent negative shadow cast over it by the vietnam war. but i also would say that he doesnt deserve #1.

FDR FTW, and teddy roosevelt was also a bamf.
May 14 2007 10:40PM
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Jamesl48
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Washington
Lincoln
Teddy Roosevelt

Those are my three picks for best, but FDR, JFK, Clinton, and Truman were also very good.
May 14 2007 10:45PM
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DDrem.
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teddy roosevelt was the american badass.
he got shot and finished a speech with the bullet in him, with no medical attention. and he used bully tactics
May 14 2007 10:49PM
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davyjones
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no dude they had like 6 cities they were gonna hit but those two had the best weather.
May 14 2007 11:29PM
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Quinn
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And he had a really big stick.
May 14 2007 11:42PM
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MarkieR
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you beat me to it.
May 14 2007 11:58PM
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MitchPee
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Exactly,

I hope you guys know that the atomic bombs weren't the reason Japan surrendered. It was the invasion of Manchuria that really made them surrender. They knew what the Russians would do.
May 15 2007 1:33AM
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Campeador
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Japan would probably be a very backward place today if the Russians had invaded and occupied it. They wanted to surrender to the Americans, just as many Nazis fled west during the end of the war in Europe so that they could escape the Soviets and surrender to the Americans.

Best president?
hmmm, I like Teddy Roosevelt, he restored honor to the presidency after the administrations of the "forgotten presidents" of the gilded age in the late 1800s. Plus he got shot giving a speech for the bull moose party and still got up and finished his speech before going to the hospital.
May 15 2007 2:16AM
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Craigskis
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May 15 2007 10:04AM
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1080bio
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Reagan, hahah.  He sucked he was arguably more corrupt than nixion.   Have you ever heard of the iran contra?  look it up and get back to me on that one. 
May 15 2007 12:04PM
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macvid
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Michael Jackson......he ruled the country of full pedophiles
May 15 2007 12:20PM
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Von
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ohh man..... sooo wrong. The atomic bomb did not kill anywhere close to one million Japanese, it killed closer to 250,000. Tokyo had already been practically burned to the ground, there was no reason to drop an a-bomb on them. And the invasion of Japan would have killed countless more civilians then the bomb  did.
May 15 2007 1:01PM
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