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Greatest President Ever

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skiierman
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Well with all the Bush bashing threads, I figured it'd be nice to have a change of pace and say who you think was the best president ever. I say Clinton because he was a pimp... and he helped out the national debt a lot. But mostly because he was a pimp.
May 11 2007 2:29PM
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killabees
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fdr
May 11 2007 2:32PM
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ATLskier
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reagan at lease in the 20th century
james madison, thomas jefferson, those guys were just badasses, all of the founding fathers.
May 11 2007 2:34PM
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Casey
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Lincoln
May 11 2007 2:39PM
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wrenegade
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really?...like really?

I wouldn't put him close to the top. You heard of something called Vietnam?

I'd have a hard time giving a number one, frankly I don't know enough about each president to accurately judge. But I'd say (in no particular order)

Dwight D. Eisenhower
FDR
Teddy Rosevelt
Abraham Lincoln
Thomas Jefferson
George Washington
May 11 2007 2:43PM
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Mat.
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haha the media coverage clinton gets for the rep he lived up to in office is dope.
family guy and simpsons episodes an all.
and robot chicken or whatever
funny shit.
May 11 2007 2:44PM
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MADr.
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Clinton made only one wrong move, he got caught. i know he got way more pussy in the white house than any of us even suspect, i mean he's a pretty normal guy, and most normal people like to have sex a few times a week, and absolutely no normal person would ever let their naked genitals within 50 feet of Hillary, so im guessing he probably got laid in the white house more than any other president so he's the biggest pimp, but abe lincoln was the most positively influential president.
May 11 2007 2:45PM
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hart62
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FDR, hands down. that cripple knew what he was doing. and, he had the balls to do it. all the whiny congressman and senators tried to shut down his new deal, but now we look at it as one of the best pieces of legislation ever. think about it, he basically changed the country from its individualist mindset, and transformed it into the welfare state it is today. plus, all this was before the concept of welfare or governments providing anything for their people even existed. Billy C comes in close second for his skill with the ladies/budget balancing skillz.
May 11 2007 2:55PM
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TheButterHashira
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probly nixon
May 11 2007 3:20PM
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MitchPee
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FDR did a lot of sneaky shit. Dresden fire bombings, Japanese concentration camps, etc. He is nowhere near what I would call a "best" president.
May 11 2007 3:24PM
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Ski_Unit_19
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ive always been a big TR fan. dude didnt take any shit
May 11 2007 3:26PM
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Skipig25
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Millard Fillmore muthafucker
May 11 2007 3:30PM
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RudyGarmisch
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May 11 2007 3:32PM
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Ski_Unit_19
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im pretty sure JFK was getting more ass then Clinton
May 11 2007 3:34PM
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squeakywaffle
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lincoln. FDR was good but lincoln was better.

also warren G.
May 11 2007 3:37PM
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babujib
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fdr got us through the great depression and WWII that has to count for something...
May 11 2007 3:39PM
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MitchPee
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Oh my god did you really say Dwight D Eisenhower?

Let's look at what old Dwight did during his presidency...

Overthrew Iranian elected prime minister Mossadegh, and implemented the Shah. This is EXACTLY why Iran hates us. Read about what the Shah did when he was in power and how we completely turned a cold shoulder to what was going on that we caused.

Overthrew the democratically elected president in Guatemala. Thus causing a corrupt country and one that is still corrupt for this reason today.

Influenced assassination of Congo president Lumumba.

Caused years of murder in Indonesia by interfering with politics and then abandoning it.

Added "under god" to the pledge of allegiance.

Overthrew Cambodian government to establish a US friendly one.

Passed the Smith act. Basically just an act that puts people in prison for having non-capitalist beliefs.

Started the COINTEL program in the FBI. Read about that.

Eisenhower and his affiliates are a huge reason we are a military country and why many countries are held down by us.
May 11 2007 3:39PM
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squeakywaffle
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but lincoln fucking ended the civil war and abolished slavery
May 11 2007 3:40PM
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pommes_vertes.
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ahhhhahahahahahah
May 11 2007 3:41PM
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Gavajabra2
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Thomas Jefferson, just wrote the single most important document in American history. Then probably Lincoln, Roosevelt, Kennedy.
May 11 2007 3:43PM
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RudyGarmisch
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He also had a top hat, and you just dont argue with one of those.
May 11 2007 3:43PM
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grimy_mexican
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do you mean "notes on virginia" about how black people clearly have smaller skulls and are subhuman?
May 11 2007 3:45PM
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squeakywaffle
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yeah i was never a big fan of jefferson... also alias
May 11 2007 3:46PM
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bryceCTS
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SKIIERMAN STRIKES AGAIN!
May 11 2007 3:46PM
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grimy_mexican
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fuck you you fucking faggot
May 11 2007 3:47PM
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squeakywaffle
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D:
May 11 2007 3:48PM
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ginty
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jack bauer for president in 08
May 11 2007 3:48PM
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grimy_mexican
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24 is for queers
May 11 2007 3:49PM
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*DwC*
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BUSH YAY he has done so much for the US
May 11 2007 3:54PM
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K2_Pubz_360
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if it wasnt for washington, we wouldnt have a US...i think...
May 11 2007 3:57PM
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Gavajabra2
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You have to understand how big communism affected the U.S. in the 50's, we wanted to stop it at all costs so he did what he thought was right.
May 11 2007 3:59PM
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T-Wash
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I'm going to say Lincoln. His beard was sick and his last name is my middle name.
May 11 2007 4:01PM
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skierdudeguy
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umm, someone made fun on nixon... he was actually a really good president. really. read yo' hiss-tree.
May 11 2007 4:23PM
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MitchPee
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No, he was responsible for innocent people being killed. You should read about the slaughters that happened in Indonesia directly related to Eisenhower.

What you're saying is the white slave owners are justified just because they thought they were right? Or Nazis killing Jews wasn't bad because they thought they were right? Come on keep the logic. I know exactly what the effect communism had on the US, but overthrowing countries is ridiculous.
May 11 2007 4:30PM
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Von
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Lincoln was one of our worst presidents by far, he never really abolished slavery, because the emancipation proclamation only applied to the north, and slaves in the south were not freed until the 14th amendment was passed, after Lincolns death. Also, for all the people who hate the patriot act and GW, you should study about the border states during the civil war and how Lincoln all but suspended the constitution. He is also one of the main reasons this country has such a centralized and large federal government.

As for FDR, his new deal didn't fix the depression, if you know you're history you'll know that in 1938 the US plunged right back into a depression, and thats after the New Deal was passed and implemented. He is also responsible for creating the socialist welfare state that the US is today.

Jefferson was this countries greatest president. Say what you want about him hating blacks, but if he really hated them so much why then was it in his will that all of his slaves be set free after his death? He doubled the size of this country and kept us out of a destructive war with France. His ideals on freedom and liberty were great and are sadly lost today.


May 11 2007 4:31PM
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Von
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Also Jackson i hate him to.
May 11 2007 4:32PM
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Eleven
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and he was an atheist
May 11 2007 4:33PM
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SlickRick.
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he was the youngest.
May 11 2007 4:34PM
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Von
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not an atheist, a deist, but yes he did believe in the strong separation of church and state.
May 11 2007 4:34PM
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philipc
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Albert Einstein was good
May 11 2007 4:34PM
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MADr.
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yeah, but he didnt have 8 years, so who knows... but he was definately doin Marilyn Monroe which is legendary... tough choice
May 11 2007 4:56PM
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waterville_NH
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FDR and Clinton...i feel like there's no point in naming presidents from 200 years ago
May 11 2007 4:56PM
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Jwenz
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I think George Washington was pretty good...being the first prez and all
May 11 2007 5:00PM
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Skipig25
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May 11 2007 5:01PM
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grimy_mexican
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uh do you seriously think that?
May 11 2007 5:03PM
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ijibgoremtn
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CLinton was the best for the American Economy and yeah he got caught getting laid big deal. anyways his policies actually made the dollar go up and our national debt go down, if he could have run for a 3rd term i still bet he would win even with the monica lewinski thing
May 11 2007 5:06PM
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MitchPee
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I'd like to know what "policies" of Clinton's made the economy go up.

Last I knew it was just the .com burst and there was a recession just a little before Clinton so...the economy was in his favor. A president really doesn't have a lot of effect on the economy.
May 11 2007 5:08PM
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almostaskier
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Garfield.
May 11 2007 5:30PM
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