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these suckers are basically new, i had them out in mid winter only 2 days on snow. I had broken my old skis but line had sent me a free pair almost right after i bought these, i liked the lines better becasue the karma was a little too much ski for what i liked to do. Verry solid on the packed and everywhere basically except the park where it kinda rode me, im only 155 pounds so im sure anyone bigger would be able to handle these pretty much anywhere they want. I dont have my camera right now but if you want i can send you some pics via camera phone. Keep in mind these are 500 dollar skis when making any offers.