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Why Killington has no excuse to close on May 6

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leone
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just look at this chart and do the math http://www.killington.com/endless_winter.html
Apr 23 2007 10:29PM
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leone
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LINK
Apr 23 2007 10:29PM
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KZA
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it costs money to run a resort, if ur not making money ur not open....
Apr 23 2007 10:34PM
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keystoner1
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hell that sae shit happened out her in colorado at keystone its gay but what can u do
Apr 23 2007 10:36PM
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salomonskiier12
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wow, 268 inches a year...
that is nothing. go ski at jay peak. talkin 400-500 inches a year
Apr 23 2007 10:36PM
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Adrenaline
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it's all about that date of the year they have mostly locals on the hill.  which pretty much means mostly season passes.  which means they aren't making money.  So that date always beats out the snow.
Apr 23 2007 10:37PM
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leone
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i know there's many other factors but when it comes down to it, snow is what makes skiing possible and it just seems funny that they've been open a month longer with less than half the amount of snow they've gotten since march
Apr 23 2007 10:40PM
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404404
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Unless powder wants to let them go longer, but that wont happen
Apr 23 2007 10:45PM
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skimanskimanskim
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the thing is, there are already to many of there employees going home. They have a bunch of foreign people that work for them that live on killington housing. Most of the lodges have closed to. Its kind of just the end, maybe they'll learn from it and next year plan differently?
Apr 23 2007 10:47PM
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Adrenaline
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once you get that initial wave of people leaving the country in the spring,  locals are your big employment pool.  if they can't get people to run the mountain, there isn't a point in keeping it open.  and yes,  powder will change a few things as far as the books are concerned,  or at least that's what happens everywhere when a new owner takes over.  but I see long seasons as long as the years don't start out as shitty as they did this season.  planning on staying open thru may when there is no snow in january february just isn't going to work....  but to conclude,  it's not that they don't want to close down to be asses,  it's just logistics and employment.  at the end of the season (last month or so) we are always 10-20+ short in the lift department.  people just start going home or to their summer desire.
Apr 23 2007 10:56PM
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fouldsys
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stfu. ive had it with you people and your "o no, my mountain is closing at the end of april!" all the mountains near me closed a month ago. you should be grateful.
Apr 23 2007 11:03PM
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pblcenemy101
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Its the forest service bro thats why those places close so early. And also its the insane cost of runing the area with vertually no one skiing.
Apr 23 2007 11:05PM
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drewishish
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it could have something to do with insurance... thats usually the reason the hills will close.
Apr 23 2007 11:10PM
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WIllW
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I remember a time when killy used to close in the first week of june


back in the good old days.....
Apr 23 2007 11:30PM
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NWFlow
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yeah look at how much longer the hill used to be open on that chart. The last three have been the three shortest ever.
Apr 24 2007 12:43AM
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NWFlow
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^on that chart anyways
Apr 24 2007 12:44AM
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GatoGordo
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My brother was born on the day that killington was open the latest, June 21, 1985.
Apr 24 2007 10:14AM
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STACKS
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Killington is incredible
Apr 24 2007 10:44AM
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kbrando
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i understand the whole loosing money aspect of it but it seems like over the last 3-5 years ski areas have been shutting down earlier than they did in the past. i always remember skiing on memorial day, i guess that is something that wont ever happend again on the east coast.....
Apr 24 2007 12:02PM
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phatbush
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that was a long season, do u know when the opened that year?

Apr 24 2007 12:29PM
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WIllW
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These numbers are crazy


1997/1998
October 1 - May 25
242"

1996/1997
October 4 - June 22
301"

1995/1996
October 17 - June 10
307"

1994/1996
October 3 - June 4
182"

1993/1994
October 1 - June 9
279"

1992/1993
October 1 - June 1
300"
Apr 24 2007 2:21PM
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AhrenStein
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actually blue closed on the 22nd stupid
Apr 24 2007 4:17PM
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DaLiNeRiDEr21
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yea
Apr 24 2007 5:33PM
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ShredtillURdead
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people that actually spend money at resorts, ie: no one on ns, arent skiing anymore, they are playing golf, because they havent seen snow in months. the ammount of money it costs killy to run is rediculous with employees and energy costs, and 5,000 seasons pass holders going a day doesnt help them make money one bit. the hotels arent full, they arent booking lessons, and they didnt do it enough in the money part of the season to keep the resort going as late this year. we could get 4 more feet and they would still prolly close.
Apr 24 2007 7:27PM
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skiierman
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If your insurance policy runs out, bam! You're done.
Apr 24 2007 7:28PM
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leone
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i don't care if everything closes except superstar, that's what they usually do for may anyways.  i'm sure they can find employees to run one chair and part of the k1 lodge, maybe just on weekends.  sorry i'm just so desperate and frustrated
Apr 24 2007 7:43PM
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AhrenStein
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yeah man i completly agree with you. just so you know though running a lift is like 5-10k per day.

but yeah i hate it that they close to. i used to alwas go on a ski trip down there with my dad on may long weekend but i havent been able to do that the past 2 years.
Apr 24 2007 7:51PM
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ShredtillURdead
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its not that they cant find employess, its that they prolly pay every single employee working at least 8$ an hour, multiply that by 10 hours a day, probably 200 employees, your looking a payroll of $32,000 a day, how many days like that can you sustain when youre hardly selling any day passes, lessons or hotel rooms?
Apr 24 2007 7:52PM
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cofreeskier
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yeah I was pissed about that keystone closed so fuckin early this year
Apr 24 2007 7:55PM
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ShredtillURdead
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heres what you do, express interest in real estate at jay peak, they will give you a free night in the hotel, go up and stay for free and ski there, they will be open at least 3 more weeks and their passes are cheap
Apr 24 2007 8:03PM
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artfullydodged
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dammit, my mountain closed like 3 weeks ago
Apr 24 2007 8:19PM
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Barmski
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so according to past trends with 294inches they should be open til at least june 1st.....this is gaaay !
Apr 24 2007 10:08PM
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TimmyP
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regardless of what we say, Killingon is going to close, may 6, thats about 12 days left to ski, so i am going to try to get out hopefully 5 more times and enjoy whats left of the season.
Apr 24 2007 10:35PM
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SteezePatrol
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because people are golfing and boating and running outside and only the season pass holders are coming up
Apr 24 2007 10:38PM
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JPSchuss
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Why. Because running lifts, electricity, diesel, and labor cost outweigh the money coming in. The resorts already have the pass holders money, so for them to stay open longer has become less of importance. Sucks to be a snow lover.
Apr 26 2007 8:02PM
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ecsm.
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damn....307 days of skiing on the east coast is like a dream
Apr 26 2007 8:06PM
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salomonskiier12
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idk about 3 more weeks...
they're closing this weekend
Apr 26 2007 8:27PM
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snarky
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ummm... that would be inches, 300 days is pretty much an entire year
Apr 26 2007 8:59PM
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tha_CF
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Powder corp does that to your mtn. bachelor used to run well into june, and even july on a couple yrs, new owner takes over, we close in may.  however they do try to keep  things pretty local..
Apr 26 2007 9:25PM
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KjellEllefson
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weill in dont know about vermont but in CO they sign a contract with the forest service to stay open a certain amount of days
Apr 26 2007 9:29PM
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winterkid33
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IT HAS A LITTLE TO DO WITH STAFF LEAVING

A LITTLE TO DO WITH THEM BEING SOLD

AND MOSTLY REGARDING BLACK BEARS COMING OUT OF HIBERNATION

A police man a stratton told me they had to close because the forest department made them because black bears were coming down the mountain and humans cant be using their territory
May 6 2007 11:03AM
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Dakoulas
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Killington used to stay open till late June...I doubt black bears are the reason.
May 6 2007 11:04AM
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nivis
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it would suck spring skiing and seeing a bear in your line
May 6 2007 12:20PM
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396222687862
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BEAR BONK, bear handplant, bear bonk 1, 3, 5...... theres endless choices!!!!
May 6 2007 12:24PM
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ATLskier
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Everybody gives reasons for them not to be open, but I dont understand why it would change so much in 4 or how many years since they last were open until june. They have tons of snow, and if they could stay open before, they could stay open now(not in a sense for how much snow they had, in a finantial sense).
May 6 2007 12:27PM
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Armanzoid
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Jib black bears?
May 6 2007 1:54PM
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andy_boy
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Hey, don't complain, my local mountain closed on April 7th with a snow base of over four meters.
May 6 2007 3:38PM
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Ahmets_Brother
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why did they have so much support before to stay open
May 6 2007 6:09PM
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Edward.
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just kill them whats so hard about that? ive done it many times before
May 6 2007 6:23PM
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snarky
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well its over, at least it was a sick day
May 6 2007 9:17PM
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nivis
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i heard that most of the people that worked at killington got layed off within the last week, and that was set awhile ago before any april snowmadness had fallen. why would the new management want to accept passes that were credited to ASC, if all it is doing is costing them money
sucks tho, there is still alot of snow in and around the top of k1
May 7 2007 12:02AM
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