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Quick waxing question

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WeK
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Theres like 50 threads on this but they all ask a different question.

2 quick ones,
1) why the hell do vises cost so much. you can get a vise for like $5 at home depot, at least thats what I think. there's vises online for like $129, how the hell do you spend anywhere past $20 to produce a vise.

2) this being the serious one. how the hell do i hold my brakes down while waxing. i must be dumb for asking since there's prolly some easy way apart from taping them or something. or do these $129 vises have this feature which obviously costs so much
Apr 22 2007 3:02AM
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ktollefson_1080
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get big rubber bands. small to but have width. then connect the rubber band on each brake on the other side there fore keeping it up.
Apr 22 2007 3:08AM
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Burrito
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I just use duct tape.
Apr 22 2007 7:46AM
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Legit
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and for the vise question, the specialty vises usually have features that keep the camber curved while waxing
Apr 22 2007 7:47AM
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pales
Posts: 1125 - Karma: 25
to answer both your questions in one, a good set of vises will hold your brakes down simlutaneously. which makes them more expensive
Apr 22 2007 10:13AM
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C.J.
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2 chairs work for a vise, and thick rubber bands for the brakes.
Apr 22 2007 4:38PM
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bigwhite.steeze
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k the simplest way to wax your skis without your breaks being all gay is to simply PUT YOUR BOOT IN THE BINDING!itll hold the breaks down and no rubber bands will get in your way.believe me, its the simplest way, and vices are expensive cause there like 100% cast metal but im sure you could pick one up for 50$
Apr 22 2007 4:46PM
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WeK
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What's wrong with just flipping your skis over on a table? Just the fact that your skis are on a tilt so the wax will slide toward the leaning side?

Also, what do you mean by keeping camber curved? You mean they flatten it out?
Apr 22 2007 4:57PM
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bigwhite.steeze
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i mentioned the wrong kind of vice...im not thinking straight...
Apr 22 2007 4:59PM
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pales
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when you flip them on the table, they are balanced so depending on where you put pressure on them they could roll over on you which is annyoing.

and when you heat a ski and it is clamped down in a vise, it can distort the camber. basicly its not good
Apr 22 2007 4:59PM
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WeK
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ohh true. does not using a vice which keeps the camber held really have that much of a risk?
Apr 22 2007 5:01PM
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bigwhite.steeze
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not at all, dude you dont need a vice. plain and simple. get 2 stools, put the tips on the stools and wax away, it will not do anything. my parents were both heli ski guids and this is how they wax them. just set it up on two stools, put your boot in it to hold down the brakes and wax away. it will not do anything to the camber because with the amount of heat you should be using it is not near hot enough to do anything to the camber.

you do not need clamps, you definatly dont need clamps that hold camber.there is no risk, just make it simple and easy
Apr 22 2007 5:15PM
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tattooed-n-evil
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why would you put your boot in the binding and wax your skis?  Any excess wax will just drip onto your boot and you'll have to clean it off.  Just get some rubber bands, the super thick ones work best.  just hook the brakes together, then wrap the elastic over the heel piece.
Apr 22 2007 6:30PM
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bigwhite.steeze
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see the thing is....if your NOT a complete retard at waxing, then you WONT drip wax everywhere and waste the wax. putting your boot in is easiest and like i said, if you dont suck at life you shouldnt get any on the plastic of your boot. oh no wax on my boot! you only have to push on it for it to come off...
Apr 22 2007 6:39PM
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tattooed-n-evil
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wow, someone's got anger issues.  calm the fuck down.  just because you can't master the use of an elastic doesn't mean you have to be a dick.  Go into any decent sho that waxes skis, 99.9% of them don't use boots to hold the brakes down.  Guess what they use.........ELASTICS.
Apr 22 2007 6:51PM
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bigwhite.steeze
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mmm yes anger issues...hey..you know what?guess what they use in shops you fucktard, CLAMPS!duh....and of course they dont use boots cause you dont give your boots to the shop when you get your skis waxed...and on the second note, were not talking about what they do in shops, were talking about what you do at home. so you know what?you, fucking suck at life.thats all.
Apr 22 2007 7:17PM
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pales
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i dont do it to my skis.

and as far as dumb and dumber's argument my post and the one i quote, its all personal preference for waxing. but if your edgeing then you would probably want vices because your applying more pressure and youo want the ski locked down so you dont fuck your bevels up. but that isnt here or now so go wax your skis and rip the spring conditions. remember to use yellow
Apr 23 2007 12:25AM
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cpas_
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when I wax i just get a long screw or something long enough for my wide brakes and put it under the brake works fine for me
Apr 23 2007 12:56AM
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Swan_Solo
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when you sharpen, you should probalby have vises, but for just waxing, you just need to set the tips of the skis on something off the ground. the ski will move less if you keep the boots in the binding, but if you're a beginner at waxing, i suggest you stick to the rubber band, it gets messy.
i have seen waxing done many different ways. always sharpen first if you are going to at all, the little shavings will scratch your bases sometimes, just little ones though. it's much cleaner and safer at low temps, just a lot slower. at higher temps it's much quicker, and your skis may absorb more wax (can someone tell me if this is true?).Just make sure you or someone supervising knows what they're doing, when i waxed my skis for the first time, p-tex started coming off with the wax-not good.
hope this helps
Apr 23 2007 2:35AM
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Silence
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i thought elastic bands were the norm..oh well.
Apr 23 2007 4:41AM
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C.J.
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they are

Apr 23 2007 11:31AM
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