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waterville_NH
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How many people here watch or keep track of Le Tour de France?



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Jul 13 2003 12:52PM
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i watched like 3minutes of it, is lance winning? i didnt watch long enough to find out
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lance is in second as of now...this guy tyler hamilton, my dad got him into cycling and on the second day of racing he was in a crash and broke his collar bone, and hes still riding in 20th which is insane out of 190+ riders



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Jul 13 2003 12:59PM
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so does it look like lance will win?
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Jul 13 2003 1:05PM
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lance will win they entered the alps today and that is where LAnce kicks ass. I think he won the stage today but i dont remember.
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Jul 13 2003 1:12PM
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of course lance will win



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is he gonna do it next year too?
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Jul 13 2003 1:13PM
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I think he will win next year too. He has like the best team like 5 of them are in the top 20 annd lance is a freaking animal. He could probably win the next year after that too.
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Jul 13 2003 1:15PM
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here we go top 50 right there

1 001 ARMSTRONG Lance USA USP in 35h 12' 50'
2 011 BELOKI Joseba ESP ONE at 00' 40'
3 171 MAYO Iban ESP EUS at 01' 10'
4 028 VINOKOUROV Alexandre KAZ TEL at 01' 17'
5 031 MANCEBO Francisco ESP BAN at 01' 37'
6 071 HAMILTON Tyler USA CSC at 01' 52'
7 002 HERAS Roberto ESP USP at 01' 58'
8 131 ULLRICH Jan GER TBI at 02' 10'
9 081 BASSO Ivan ITA FAS at 02' 25'
10 015 JAKSCHE Jorg GER ONE at 03' 19'
11 003 BELTRAN Manuel ESP USP at 03' 20'
12 179 ZUBELDIA Haimar ESP EUS at 03' 25'
13 036 MENCHOV Denis RUS BAN at 03' 29'
14 121 MOREAU Christophe FRA C.A at 03' 34'
15 175 LAISEKA Roberto ESP EUS at 04' 03'
16 204 CAUCCHIOLI Pietro ITA ALS at 04' 06'
17 161 GARZELLI Stefano ITA CAL at 04' 44'
18 119 VIRENQUE Richard FRA QSD at 04' 48'
19 198 TOTSCHNIG Georg AUT GST at 04' 58'
20 078 SASTRE Carlos ESP CSC at 05' 29'
21 152 ASTARLOZA Mikel ESP A2R at 05' 43'
22 061 MILLAR David GBR COF at 06' 04'
23 009 RUBIERA José Luis ESP USP at 06' 04'
24 075 LÜTTENBERGER Peter AUT CSC at 07' 09'
25 066 MONCOUTIE David FRA COF at 07' 24'
26 042 BOOGERD Michael NED RAB at 07' 42'
27 138 PLAZA David ESP TBI at 07' 59'
28 013 AZEVEDO José POR ONE at 08' 25'
29 181 ROUS Didier FRA BLB at 08' 29'
30 183 CHAVANEL Sylvain FRA BLB at 08' 33'
31 037 MERCADO Juan Miguel ESP BAN at 08' 48'
32 117 ROGERS Michael AUS QSD at 08' 51'
33 201 DUFAUX Laurent SUI ALS at 09' 17'
34 106 PARRA Ivan COL KEL at 09' 18'
35 018 SERRANO Marcos ESP ONE at 09' 30'
36 134 GARCIA CASAS Félix ESP TBI at 09' 41'
37 038 PETROV Evgeni RUS BAN at 11' 58'
38 047 NIERMANN Grischa GER RAB at 12' 10'
39 065 LELLI Massimiliano ITA COF at 13' 34'
40 153 BOTCHAROV Alexandre RUS A2R at 14' 04'
41 173 ETXEBARRIA David ESP EUS at 16' 05'
42 027 NARDELLO Daniele ITA TEL at 16' 25'
43 218 LEFEVRE Laurent FRA DEL at 16' 52'
44 056 GLOMSER Gerrit AUT SAE at 18' 37'
45 068 TRENTIN Guido ITA COF at 18' 46'
46 107 PASCUAL LLORENTE Javier ESP KEL at 19' 48'
47 051 SIMONI Gilberto ITA SAE at 20' 01'
48 154 CHAURREAU Inigo ESP A2R at 22' 21'
49 187 PINEAU Jérôme FRA BLB at 23' 48'
50 211 HALGAND Patrice




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^that was over all this is todays stage:

1 171 MAYO Iban ESP EUS in 5h 57' 30'
2 028 VINOKOUROV Alexandre KAZ TEL at 01' 45'
3 001 ARMSTRONG Lance USA USP at 02' 12'
4 031 MANCEBO Francisco ESP BAN at 02' 12'
5 179 ZUBELDIA Haimar ESP EUS at 02' 12'
6 011 BELOKI Joseba ESP ONE at 02' 12'
7 071 HAMILTON Tyler USA CSC at 02' 12'
8 081 BASSO Ivan ITA FAS at 02' 12'
9 175 LAISEKA Roberto ESP EUS at 02' 12'
10 204 CAUCCHIOLI Pietro ITA ALS at 03' 36'
11 121 MOREAU Christophe FRA C.A at 03' 36'
12 002 HERAS Roberto ESP USP at 03' 36'
13 131 ULLRICH Jan GER TBI at 03' 36'
14 036 MENCHOV Denis RUS BAN at 04' 15'
15 161 GARZELLI Stefano ITA CAL at 04' 46'
16 198 TOTSCHNIG Georg AUT GST at 04' 46'
17 015 JAKSCHE Jorg GER ONE at 04' 46'
18 003 BELTRAN Manuel ESP USP at 04' 46'
19 042 BOOGERD Michael NED RAB at 04' 59'
20 078 SASTRE Carlos ESP CSC at 05' 26'
21 152 ASTARLOZA Mikel ESP A2R at 06' 04'
22 061 MILLAR David GBR COF at 06' 09'
23 075 LÜTTENBERGER Peter AUT CSC at 06' 52'
24 037 MERCADO Juan Miguel ESP BAN at 06' 52'
25 106 PARRA Ivan COL KEL at 06' 52'
26 066 MONCOUTIE David FRA COF at 06' 52'
27 024 GUERINI Giuseppe ITA TEL at 07' 46'
28 009 RUBIERA José Luis ESP USP at 07' 46'
29 181 ROUS Didier FRA BLB at 07' 51'
30 138 PLAZA David ESP TBI at 07' 51'
31 183 CHAVANEL Sylvain FRA BLB at 08' 11'
32 065 LELLI Massimiliano ITA COF at 08' 39'
33 201 DUFAUX Laurent SUI ALS at 09' 01'
34 117 ROGERS Michael AUS QSD at 09' 29'
35 119 VIRENQUE Richard FRA QSD at 09' 29'
36 013 AZEVEDO José POR ONE at 09' 29'
37 153 BOTCHAROV Alexandre RUS A2R at 09' 29'
38 134 GARCIA CASAS Félix ESP TBI at 10' 31'
39 218 LEFEVRE Laurent FRA DEL at 10' 31'
40 056 GLOMSER Gerrit AUT SAE at 10' 31'
41 018 SERRANO Marcos ESP ONE at 10' 31'
42 047 NIERMANN Grischa GER RAB at 11' 10'
43 027 NARDELLO Daniele ITA TEL at 11' 59'
44 057 LUDEWIG Jorg GER SAE at 12' 42'
45 051 SIMONI Gilberto ITA SAE at 12' 42'
46 038 PETROV Evgeni RUS BAN at 12' 42'
47 173 ETXEBARRIA David ESP EUS at 14' 15'
48 102 GUTIERREZ José Enrique ESP KEL at 16' 15'
49 135 GARMENDIA Aitor ESP TBI at 17' 15'
50 107 PASCUAL LLORENTE Javier ESP KEL at 17' 47'




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Jul 13 2003 1:18PM
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I have yet to miss a stage (rather, the last half of a stage, since that's whenI get up). Lance will have a VERY hard time winning this year. I think beloki, hamilton, and ulrich will give him a real run for his money (although ulrich raced horribly today). Everyone who's ever won 5 tours has said the 5th was by far the hardest.

My prediction is lance wins, but not by much, and I think it will be a back and forth battle between him and some of the other great riders (ulrich, beloki, hamilton, mayo?).
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Jul 13 2003 1:24PM
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Tyler hamilton is the best and he should win



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Jul 13 2003 1:33PM
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he's good, no doubt. i met him a few years back at the Mt Washington hill climb (hardest hill climb in the world) and he was a real nice guy. he blasted away the competition too.

I would say if anyone wins toerht then lance, I want tyler, because he's got a broekn clavical and I've met him.
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hahahaha...
1-hamilton will prolly not be able to finish the tour. broken collar bone... come on
2-Ulrich have liek the worst team ever... you cant beat lance without a good team...

So, the only possible way to beat lance if he dosent sscrew up would be beloki and his once.

BUT, even with the once being one good team and beloki being a damn good racer, this is prolly not going to happpen..

look at who is on the us postal... heras..... that damn kid his like the only one that could kick lance ass in the mountains.. but he gota make sure that lance win, so he will do everything to help his leader...

so... this year tour will be all about lance armstrong and his us postals... that's it




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Jul 13 2003 1:40PM
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^my dad got him into biking and my mom was his french teacher ha



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Jul 13 2003 1:41PM
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I've been watching the tour from as long as i can remeber, so i know what im talking about.

O, and lace showed everyone that he is in a good form in the early comps of this season... wich is bab bad baad for his competitors


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Jul 13 2003 1:42PM
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cant wait or the pyrenees....


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Jul 13 2003 2:00PM
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oh yes... should be fun to watch.. but I see tyler finishing because well, look at his performance today.. he was right up there with hera, armstrong, and beloki. he says it's not affecting him much, and he wants this tour becuase he says he's in the best shape he has ever been.
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yea.. but this is the first real day... look at how Pantani was pushing armstrong when he was hurt... he did good for 2 days in the mountains, then he exploded....


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Jul 13 2003 2:04PM
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very true. we'll ahve to see. as for us postal, I'd love to see heras challenge lance for one stage... just to see how they compare (although it will probably not happen).

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Lance team is still really strong, not as strong as it was when hamilton was in it but still really strong...

the problem is that some of lance partners will eventually leave like tyler did cause they are wickedly talented... so that means trouble for harmstrong... cause you dont want to have the one that know how you race and who know your little weakness ( even if lance prolly dont have any weakness right now)






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Jul 13 2003 2:11PM
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^but pantani was a little weasle who uses drugs, and is french your native language?



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Jul 13 2003 4:44PM
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up Alpe Duez .. today's stage, Lance got third, even though he started in first at the bottom. Ussually lance destroys in the Alps, but the guy who is in 3rd now, Mayo, Won the stage and is now in 3rd overall. He is only in 3rd becuase his team sucked in the TTT. Early in the cycling season, Mayo beat Lance on one of the spring races. So, Lance really has to ride well to keep Mayo from taking control on the mtns. But Mayo is still just a climber, so on the next TT, lance will probably come back to win.
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Jul 13 2003 8:51PM
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ive been following it. that huge crash was the siktness
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Jul 13 2003 9:10PM
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mayo is also somewhat of a rookie.. he's talented and will be a com,petitor int he future, but I doubt he can keep this up through every mtn stage. Also, lance didn't foolow many attacks today, but I suspect after we get further into the race, he'll start to blow people away like he used to.. but I think it'll be tough to win anotehr.
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i know absolutly nothing about tour de france, or any bike racing for that matter, so i'll just bull-shit my analasis; lance is doing very well, but i believe that hamilton will come backright near the end. mayo dude's okay, but hes nothing special.
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oooh, lancey pantsy better win else ima be pissed






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Jul 14 2003 12:24AM
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lance will win for sure. 1.)he is an animal. 2.)he has an amazing team. that guy is so determined and he doesn't let anything bother him and his team all loves him because he gives them so much credit. so they will help him for sure.

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Jul 14 2003 1:55AM
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1- you cant do le tour de france by eating steaks and drink water... (you know what i mean...) those you get caught do cause their team do not have enougth budget...

2- mayo is not a contender... he would not have raised his arm if he would have tried to take some times on lane...

3- lance did not attacked... and if you watched the last 4 tours... it only mean on something... watch for the next mountains event.....

4- a guy without a good team cant win a tour... pantani did cause he was like the only good climber when he won... now, you have monsters like armstong and companie who are time trial beast and can kick most climbers ass in the alps cause htey trained all spring long in mountains...


I cant wait to see tyler hamilton and roberto heras fully healthy and with a team that will do all they can to make them finish on the odium...


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does lance still moutain bike as well? i know he was doing some pro races like a couple of years ago



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he didn't do well in those, and ti was kinda a puiblicity stunt for NORBA. I was at one of the races he did (I think Mt Snow) and he did well, but not to graet.
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lance how old is he now?

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lance is probly like 35...But i cant believe Beloki is out! he fell today and broke his heel i think



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but it was so funny, lace had to cut across some corn field because it was right before a 180 degree turn



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ya, that's a huge blow to the tour, adn team once. he was by far one of teh best riders... but I don't know, after teh last 2 days, I think vinikoruv and mayo could surprise some people, as long as they can keep up in teh non mtn stages.
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heras is fuckign insane... a lot of the top riders are.
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i think TYLER HAMILTON is going to surprise people because he is the toughest muther fucker ive ever seen, hes more hard core when it comes to pain than any pro skier




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hehe... you just like him cause you know him..
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no, its not me who knows him (two bad) my dad just got him into biking and my mom was his teacher (and yea, thats why i like him)



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hehe. I'm cheering for him cause I've met him and watched him win an audi a4
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my mom says hes one of the nicest people shes ever met, is this true?



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he was cool the time I talked to him, even though there were like 500 other peeps trying to talk and congradualate him at the same time.
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have you read lance's book? after reading that and after he just left his wife with 3 kids i think hes a jerk...but a damn good bike rider ill give him that



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a jerk for beating cancer? that crash today was crazy, he went down hard and lance did some mtn biking


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Jul 15 2003 1:31AM
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lance is winning as of today Tuesday


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Jul 15 2003 12:45PM
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nothing really happened today as far as race leaders... but I liked the whole protest that they ahd to avoid.
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Jul 15 2003 12:58PM
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yeah dude that crash was intense, beloki got fucked up majorly, he'll have to have surgery on his broken leg, and i believe he broke his elbow and wrist as well...that sucks so much. i guess he locked up his back wheel coming into that hairpin turn and his tire blew out when he started skidding...that would be scary as hell
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broke Femur, Elbow, and a Finger.
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