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Smoking 1 J = 5 Cigs??

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Arabian.
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I've only seen studies that show the effects of weed in cigarrette form, but what about in a pipe?
Bong?
Any other water pipe?

VAPORIZER?

I'd like to see some studies that include these areas. If you can find them, could you provide a link?
Apr 7 2007 2:20AM
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Lé.Skiing
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not completely true... ciggs get you high, they give you a nicotine high, which is more of a clear minded high and sort of like an adrenaline rush and if you smoke for a long time you get hooked, and the high goes away, thats how people get hooked
Apr 9 2007 1:55AM
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Sno.
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what? i dont know i didnt read all the responses on this one. but if you're referring to damage, that's not right, cause weed doesnt have the tar/other chemicals that harm your lungs.
Apr 9 2007 1:58AM
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unchyll
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well long story short who gives a fuck, i smoked for a year straight every day atleast twice a day and i couldnt tell my lungs where fucked up so im gonna keep smoking mi herbz
ganja is my medication ganja in ma soul
Apr 9 2007 2:04AM
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Capurnicus
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Wow, there is a staggering amount of gross inaccuracies and wrong statements in this thread.
Apr 9 2007 2:31AM
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aja_kiki
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yea why would u even get addicted to cigs when there's weed? not to say you should get addicted.

well actually cigs are cheaper but ew...
Apr 9 2007 8:33AM
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theabortionator
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OMG I FOUND YOU IN A RANDOM THREAD!!!!! WHATS GOOD MAN!!!!


WEED IS THE DEVIL YO
Apr 2 2011 6:36AM
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Flying~Squirrel
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this. its comparing apples and oranges. maybe you get more shit in your lungs from a joint, which makes sense because it isnt filtered like a cigarette, but you also usually smoke way more cigarettes in a given amount of time. most people who smoke pot only go once a day at most, but cigarette smokers average around three a day, lots of people do a lot more. so where is the comparison on the whole picture? i dont think it exists.
Apr 2 2011 9:27AM
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steezy.stew
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I've never smoked so i obviously no nothing on the matter, but i've always wondered what they mean by tar? i mean i doesn't make sense since marijuana is after all just a plant, not some factory produced chemical mess like a cigarette.
Apr 2 2011 10:07AM
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CAPITA-DEVOURS
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are ya fucked?
Apr 2 2011 10:35AM
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Broseph_Stalin
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wait a minute, i dont feel like reading the whole thing,...

can weed give you cancer (have carcinagines)?
Apr 2 2011 10:43AM
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henrytargett
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As far as I know... there are no reports of people getting lung cancer because of purely marijuana... and there are no cases of death caused by marijuana. if anyone has evidence to prove me wrong here please post it.

Weed is not too bad for your lungs... not great for your brain though.
Apr 2 2011 10:51AM
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petrov
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Tar in itself isn't necessarily "bad" for you. I smoke in the ballpark of 20 joints a day and the doctor tells me every year that I'm one healthy mother fucker. I even took it one step further last appointment and blew into the CFM tester. He said I have the lungs of a non smoker, but I've been smoking bud every single day for 9 years straight. I could be a special case, but I highly doubt it.

As for the "danger" of weed, non existent. In real terms, the damage weed does to your brain is so minimal that its almost impossible to track. They have compared weed smoke to thinks like sniffing a highlighter, drinking a full coffee (heart rate), downing a beer, and many normal activities. If you look at all the things around us (Wifi, UV, Radiation), smoking weed probably won't effect your life expectancy. Of course some people are more prone to have problems, but for the most part there really isn't any comparison you can make between cigarettes and Marijuana. One kills people and the other doesn't..lol.




Apr 2 2011 11:11AM
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Balto
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omg wyatt lets smoke a bowl
Apr 2 2011 11:15AM
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petrov
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No, there are no reported cases of cancer from Marijuana. EVER.

Apparently 3-4 sources now say that a chemical inside Marijuana Smoke is somehow curing lung cancer. Yeah, I'm serious.
Apr 2 2011 11:17AM
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Drail
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seriously. I've never seen such a shitty discussion on weed/tobacco on NS to date.

BUT - instead of just coming in here and commenting without actually contributing I'll say this:

It seams like none of you have actually ever met a true chronic pot smoker. They exist, and they blow any study done on "4 joint a day" smokers out of the water.
Apr 2 2011 11:30AM
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Flying~Squirrel
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holy fucking shit pissing hotdi cki d ajf eiojf nfksldn athats a lot of weed.
Apr 2 2011 12:01PM
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Anathema
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uhhhhhh you'd be surprised
Apr 2 2011 12:02PM
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PON3
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i take 3-4 hits off any thing and im good to go.

now go to a person that smokes and tell them just to take 3-4 hits of that cig and see if they are good for the whole day.
Apr 2 2011 12:20PM
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Alex_G
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salt lake isn't much better...our pollution is almost on par with LA some days
Apr 2 2011 12:23PM
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m.brus
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I'm pretty sure THC is fat soluble, not water soluble
Apr 2 2011 12:27PM
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petrov
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Correct. Marijuana is 98% Soluble in Alcohol, and I don't know the percentage but it does dissolve into fat as well.

Many studies showed THC is 0% soluble in water, no potency is lost through filtration. If you seriously think a bong is the worst way to smoke weed you need to do some actual research, CNN isn't facts.
Apr 2 2011 12:29PM
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Brock.
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Jesus christ this thread is retarded.
Apr 2 2011 12:30PM
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petrov
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Since I can't edit my post I guess I'll just post again, lol.

To add to my last statement; The most harmful way to smoke Marijuana is through a blunt. Why? The blunt itself is full of carcinogens, glue, and Tobacco. Spliffs aren't much better, the glue they use is toxic and way worse than the Marijuana itself.

Smoking weed through a bong is the most "pure" way to smoke weed other than solar hits. If you want the purest hit, with no flame, get a vaporizer. Hospitals  all across the US are putting hundreds of Cancer patients on Vapes because it makes them eat, and takes some pain away. Supposedly if you smoke through a vape, there are virtually NO consequences.
Apr 2 2011 12:32PM
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000000000000
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all organic material smoked contains carcinogens
Apr 2 2011 1:20PM
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ImNotARacist
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Alright I have an idea. Any time a thread goes beyond ignorant, the mods should make the title red.
Apr 2 2011 1:26PM
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squibble
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Apr 2 2011 1:29PM
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DirtyDan
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If this were true, does that mean that 1 blunt = a carton of cigs?
Apr 2 2011 1:33PM
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BootySpunk.
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Weed tolerance is a bitch my friend.
Apr 2 2011 1:35PM
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CluckaChuck
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ACTUALLY, the drug THC does not give/cause cancer but smoking weed can. Other chemicals in weed can cause cancer depending on what pesticides were used to grow it, what environment it was grown in, and what you use to smoke it out of. So yes smoking pot can cause cancer but THC can not.
Apr 2 2011 1:38PM
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BootySpunk.
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You guys are just paranoid as shit that everything in existence will give you cancer...Oh no I better not eat that steak because that cow ate that blade of grass that had that little bit of pesticide on it and now I am going to get cancer!
Apr 2 2011 1:40PM
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ImNotARacist
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Since does weed every have pesticides growing on it? I don't know any growers that use such a thing.
Apr 2 2011 1:41PM
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.Apex.
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That scientist is retarded then cause literally noone has ever died from marijuana use
Apr 2 2011 1:44PM
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.nasty
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the thread title has nothing to do with toxins. weed has TONS more TAR than cigs could ever dream of having.
Apr 2 2011 2:18PM
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sneezin
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mexican drug cartel ftw
Apr 2 2011 2:20PM
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ImNotARacist
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Pleases give me a source. PLEASE



Why must you do things like this arabian? To exploit that the vast majority of NS is very ignorant about most topics?
Apr 2 2011 2:20PM
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BootySpunk.
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Ha that sucks you have to smoke mexi schwag.
Apr 2 2011 2:26PM
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TheHamburglar
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lol this thread is 4 years old. weed rocks get over it.
Apr 2 2011 2:29PM
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ImNotARacist
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holy shit it is. GOD DAMN IT! FUCK FUCK FUCK. I lost
Apr 2 2011 2:30PM
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inb4butthurt
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Pot is better for you than cigarettes. /thread
Apr 2 2011 2:59PM
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.nasty
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http://www.justice.gov/dea/ongoing/marijuana.html

fifth bullet point down. and notice it's a government source not commercial.
Apr 2 2011 3:11PM
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cobra_commander
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smoking 1 dick = worse then smoking elevntymillion cigs.
Apr 2 2011 3:13PM
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BootySpunk.
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Any smoke you inhale into your lungs is going to be bad for you. But at least the Cannabinoids found in marijuana help with many things where as cigs literal do nothing good for your body.

http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/pdq/cam/cannabis/healthprofessional/page4
Apr 2 2011 3:21PM
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BravoWhiskey5280
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What doesn't kill ya makes you stronger so stfu and get high.
Apr 2 2011 3:29PM
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[._.]
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What if i cut off both your legs?
Apr 2 2011 3:32PM
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BravoWhiskey5280
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Id grow new ones
Apr 2 2011 3:34PM
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.nasty
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sick, all was claiming is that weed has more tar. and the comparison made in title most likely refers to that.

Of course weed is still healthier (if you want to call it that) than cigs.
Apr 2 2011 3:42PM
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amo
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hot damn i haven't smoked all day i need some bong rips
Apr 2 2011 3:55PM
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Bonzalo
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ITT: Retard kids trying to look like they know about weed and cigs.
Apr 2 2011 4:02PM
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Bonzalo
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*Retarded
Apr 2 2011 4:02PM
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Shlogan
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weed smoke itself has to be harmful to an extent, its thicker smoke than cigs and people who blaze make a point of holding it in and inhaling as much as possible where as cigs people do not always inhale and obvisouly never ghost hit or anything. i smoke weed, but for kids who think theres absolutley no damage, even short term, is wrong. i would assume unfiltered bud like a joint, spoon, or blunt would be more harmful than a vape or water bong.
Apr 2 2011 4:07PM
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