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ive never heard of those two, bu ti havent really read any skate mags for a year. But I had about 3 nice element decks. I found if u get the right one of those, like wide and tons of concave, they're good.
I tried a zoo york, it was wide and nice, i liked that.
I hate skinny decks. I had a flip once i think...
But basically all companies decks I find, you can usually find boards that are super similar. I like 8 inch wide decks and long ones. So i unno, zoo yorks cool.