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YEAH! US pulling out of Iraq!!

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freestyler540
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The bill passed this morning with 51-47. It means that congress agrees with pulling out of Iraq.The bill put funds to the troops to pull out and put a deadline of 120 days.

But, last night Bush was threatening to "de veto" the bill. No news on Bush's reaction yet. I wouldnt be suprised if his fascist ways will let him revoke the bill.

http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2007/03/29/senate-pullout-070329.html#skip300x250

Mar 29 2007 2:01PM
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FUUUCK
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The olsen twins getting nose jobs is front page news but this isn't!??!

something is wrong
Mar 29 2007 7:44PM
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MitchPee
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Yes, Iran is up to something. It's called revenge. You know like how we put their people through 20 years of torture and oppression while the world turned its head on our actions.

Iran wants to justify this the same way the whole US population wanted to justify Sept. 11 with the Kill em' back method. That proved to work out just super didn't it.

They would love for us to attack them and we are just stupid enough to do it. They will never attack us with a nuke, because that disregards their whole point. They want the world to see how truly evil we are. Now I am by no means saying this country is evil, but we have done some corrupt things.

I am willing to bet you don't know anything about Iranian culture. I'm willing to bet you didn't know Iran is actually a fun place to ski. The American media gives people like you a spoon and you just sit there and take the image that is given to you.

You also have no idea what a socialist is if you think Obama is one. Again actually listen to what he says and what his plans are instead of having the media form an opinion for you.

You think the rich get taxed in this country? Wow, the middle class is where all the tax money comes from. Take a look at tax brackets. The super rich pay practically nothing compared to what upper middle class people pay. You are one highly misinformed girl and I hope people that think like you stop breeding and spreading ignorance in this country.
Mar 29 2007 7:59PM
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Lax_Bro40
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if we pull out with putting in place a stable government Iraq is going dive into civil war just like 90% of the African countries did when the European powers pulled out and gave them independence
Mar 29 2007 8:27PM
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Campeador
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You know what you're talking about. The upper middle class is getting fucked.
Mar 29 2007 8:27PM
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Campeador
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Thats why the country should be split into three separate nations.
Mar 29 2007 8:28PM
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triebby
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You people are fucking retarted. Most of you know nothing about politics, your just Bush haters that always watch mainstream liberally biased news on TV. Try opeing up your minds and giving people lke Glenn Beck, Michael Savidge, and Rush Limbaugh a chance, just a chance that is all I am asking. Just please get all of the facts from all of the sources before you post stuff on NS.
Mar 29 2007 8:35PM
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bangarangmules
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yay. now my friend wont have to move, and he can stay and run on our xc team
Mar 29 2007 8:37PM
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Mod
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Exactly, and might I say how dare you call Obama a socialist! Anywho, of course they don't tax the rich, because the majority of the rich are republicans and the republicans need campaign $ from these people. And I'd like to add Iran is being mischevious and if Britain goes to war with them how would we look if we didn't back them up? Like they did us during 9|11? All I can say is I hope to god those Iranian bastards don't kill those british sailors or we could very possibly be looking at going to war with them and spending more $ and expending more lives of our troops.
Mar 29 2007 8:40PM
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Mod
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Rush Limbaugh is a fucking moron! Must I drag out the old clip of him making fun of Michael J. Fox's commerical? What a dickhead.
Mar 29 2007 8:42PM
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skiRay
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there's a point
Mar 29 2007 8:44PM
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ax_murderer
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fucking liberals lie so much more u dumbass fuck you
Mar 29 2007 8:53PM
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skierdudeguy
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no. that just means you dont know much about politics
Mar 29 2007 9:00PM
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Capt.Flannel
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good response; thanks for answering without being rude.
Mar 29 2007 9:52PM
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Capt.Flannel
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Nice one man! Reading comprehension isn't your strong point eh? Read my first sentence, maybe you won't be so godam dumb.
Mar 29 2007 9:54PM
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newschooler8924
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you though i said watch fox news so maybe yours isnt so hot either eh?
Mar 29 2007 10:02PM
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Capt.Flannel
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Oh, and just to clarify, as I assume that you won't be taking a comprehension class before responding;

You shouldn't trust ANY news station to tell you the facts without any bias and you shouldn't think you know 'the truth' because you watch the news. It's simply more amusing to me to watch Fox because of the hilarity that ensues by sitting down and noticing their blatant bias and overpowering stupidity mixed in with actual news. CNN, MSNBC, etc... guess what; they are better in the subtlety department, but they are still cable news.
Mar 29 2007 10:04PM
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Capt.Flannel
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haha yep. Since you spelled OFF wrong, I simply noticed two letters sitting next to each other and assumed you said ON. That'll teach me to read quickly eh?
Mar 29 2007 10:06PM
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Sno.
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Sig'd
Mar 29 2007 10:12PM
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oiECSoi
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fuck politics. Waste of time. politicians are all lying scum
Mar 29 2007 10:13PM
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Capt.Flannel
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OI!
Mar 29 2007 10:20PM
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Shpadoinkle
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1. of course they are. how did we put them through torture because i don't remember anything of the such? but if we did i am just oblivious to the facts then so be it.

2. what do you think we should have done? just sit here and cry? give into the enemy?

3. i don't think they will nuke us either but anything is possible.

4. i don't know alot about iranian culture but i know enough, thank you very much. my best friends dad is doing construction work for the US government and one of the best skiers i know. he skis all the time over there. so don't go around assuming because then you just make an ass of yourself.

5. fuck the media. i know what he is saying and what all the other candidates are saying. he is too young. how many years has he been working for the us government? how many years has he been a senator? again...don't assume.

6. did i say about how the rich is getting taxed now? i don't think so.

7. get over yourself.

that's all i'm gonna say because then everyone will want to e-fight me or something. i just wanted to voice my opinion.

kthnxbai

Mar 29 2007 10:33PM
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Bob_Loblaw
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I don't even know why I still read these threads. 99% of the people on this site must be legally retarded. Go read a book and stop watching TV news.
Mar 29 2007 10:42PM
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Mod
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5. fuck the media. i know what he is saying and what all the other candidates are saying. he is too young. how many years has he been working for the us government? how many years has he been a senator? again...don't assume.


'He is too young', that statement makes me laugh! If I'm correct Kennedy was a couple years younger and Kennedy was one of the top 5 presidents of the united states in my opinion ;)
Mar 29 2007 10:49PM
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Capt.Flannel
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Why not just say it? You don't like him because he's a democrat, though your skepticism is due to his age and inexperience.
Mar 29 2007 10:52PM
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TheWiseCracker
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GO GET 'EM BOYS

'MERICA!

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Mar 29 2007 10:59PM
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_alli_
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1. Iraq was never proved to be linked in any way to the events of 9-11.  So You're second point makes no sense.

2.  Right, because knowing one person who occasionally travels to Iran for business gives you a good understanding of the culture and history of Iran.

3.  What does the question of Obama's experience have to do with you being too much of an idiot to know what a socialist is?

4.  Yes, you DID "say about" (great English there by the way) how the rich were taxed.  One pager before.  It was quoted many times on this same page.  You complained about the democrat, or sorry, SOCIALIST, tendency to raise taxes for the upper class because "it's their money".

5. No one will e-fight you, because you haven't given any valid points in which to support an argument. We're all just going to point out how much of an uninformed idiot you are.
Mar 29 2007 11:05PM
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i-7
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Nah it just means your a dumbass. Girls shouldn't get involved with politics unless they are age 33 or older.
Mar 29 2007 11:11PM
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derbski
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no matter happens in iraq, we need some really good peace talkers going over to Iran, cuz I didnt watch the show, but that whole "our childrens childrens war" just sounds scary as fuck.
Mar 29 2007 11:13PM
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i-7
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Yeah pull out all the troops out so people like Pat Tilman died for nothing instead of something right... It takes time.. you all think abortion and stem cell research should be legal but when we lose some troops the country goes crazy and thinks its fucked up. Give them a chance.. it takes time.. thats all our troops want. They want to fight for something and make a change and they are trying and you guys sitting home safe on your computers, in your boxers with no shirts on comfortable saying they are doing nothing except killing themselves. Nice. You fucking spoiled ignorant bastards that call themselves Americans..
Mar 29 2007 11:17PM
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Mod
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owned.
Mar 29 2007 11:17PM
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1-pippin
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damn that sucks
Mar 29 2007 11:22PM
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BFFset.
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no it means you're not fucking retarded, and your political views are not influenced by stupidness
Mar 29 2007 11:42PM
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C-Burg
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Nancy Pelosi and the democrats shitted all over democracy by buying votes. They bought votes buy attaching $21 billion of tax payers money to their vote
Mar 30 2007 1:02AM
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Mr_Bojangles
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Zzzzzzing!
Mar 30 2007 1:07AM
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Swick825
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he's doing it to hide his illiteracy. he cant sign a bill he cant read.
Mar 30 2007 1:14AM
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skier_boy26
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Well, Bush will veto it without a doubt, and even though I rather despise Bush, he should. Leaving Iraq next year (or any time soon) could, and probably would, be the worst thing to do at this point.
Mar 30 2007 1:17AM
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freestyler540
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Ok, what you have failed to notice is that its been 4 years already and nothing happend...except murders of civilians. The first world war was shorter and improved the world...in most part. What did the iraq war do? It seperated the eastern culture with the western and caused more hate. Also, it destroyed a country economicaly, politicaly and socialy.

You prove a good point with our living conditions.He dont hate the soldiers...even if they are immature automotones working on orders, it the war we protest. Bush believes that everybody should conform to american policy. He hasent realised that iraqui living conditions are getting worse than under Saddam. He forgot that culture does not change, Muslims in the middle east have always lived under a monarchy. Introducing a new political system does not intrest them, nor would they involve themselves. So, they will resist the change. Image if Saddam had the upper hand and try to change US policy, claiming it is better. Would you hand over your beliefs just like that? I dont think so either.

Mar 30 2007 1:17AM
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pmills
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if you support the troops, show your support and quit your bitching about why you think it is wrong for us to pull out

http://www.goarmy.com/contact/how_to_join.jsp



Mar 30 2007 1:23AM
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newschooler8924
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this is for you flag waving republicans-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_ZCGhd8jnU




ya know what, fuck the troops. let em stay in iraq and get blown the fuck up. this war is identical to fucking vietnam.
Mar 30 2007 1:32AM
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newschooler8924
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im sure you all will say that video ony shows a small number and the majority of soilders give candy to kids and are heros
Mar 30 2007 1:34AM
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RudyGarmisch
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1) You have no grasp at all of what has happened in the last 30 years in the middle east, as do most Americans. Get informed, please. They have plenty of reason to hate us, and if you want to dispute what I'm telling you, go research it.

2) They aren't our enemy. Its people  like you that are the first to fucking assume that anyone who disagrees with out policies are evil as hell. Look at the god damn facts - they haven't preemptively attacked anyone, or incited any violent acts. Oh gee, have we? (hint, we invaded a country under false assumptions...)

3) Anything is not possible. The idea that a foreign power could try to install a dirty bomb in our country and set it off is possible, however, it is extremely unlikely. Wars and politics are controlled by things greater than your predispositions. The country of Iran, however much you would like them to be, are not compatriots with the Taliban and Al-qaeda. It would make no fucking sense for them to suddenly attack a superpower, and I could not imagine them ever doing so, no matter what crazy ass fuck was running the country.

4) You're right about the first part, as you evidently dont know shit, let alone "enough". Regardless of what your 'best friends dad' is doing (which somehow lends you credence to your argument, which I fail to grasp the connection....) . I dont care how much he skis over there, that does give him any idea of the politics or culture over there, and gives you even less credibility when it comes to that subject.

5) Fuck your media. What do you get your information from? Bill O'Riley? Michael Savage? Try BBC once and a while, they are the largest and longest running undisputed neutral news agency. And as for your obvious choice in presidential candidates, heres what I have to say - McCain is a fucking hawk and shifts sides more than Kerry, and Giuliani is a downright paraplegic when it comes to taking a stand on an issue. Barack is the fresh line of thinking our executive branch needs.

As for your last few 'points' I honestly dont have much to say, past that I'm honestly surprised that so openly uninformed and historically ignorant people like you exist in the world. Learn about the fucking world before you go having an opinion, and more importantly, a vote in any elections.

"KTHNXBAI"!!!

Mar 30 2007 1:45AM
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cobra_commander
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       1. of course they are. how did we put them through torture because i don't remember anything of the such? but if we did i am just oblivious to the facts then so be it.

We supported a the sha (sp?) who never gave a fuck about human rights, and so we turned a deaf ear to all complaints about the abuses going on inside iran, and guess what to get the sha back in power we overthrough a democraticly ellected government. Then after the sha was overthrown an the whole iranian hostage crises, we supported Suddam with weapons and money  (including biological and chemical weapons) so he could fight the iranians. and in that war he used the US' provided chemical weapons on the Iranian army, with mcuh more horricif effects then any of the gas weapons from WWI. So yes the iranian people have plenty to hate us for. (in addition to kicking the Arab people out of Isreal  and continued support of Isreal)

    3.i don't think they will nuke us either but anything is possible.
The iranian government is not stupid enough to openly nuke the united states. why? becuase then they could compleatly wipe out millions of people in a couple of city's at most and then the United States would proceed to blow Iran off of the map and the rest of the world would sit and watch and at the end would say oh wasent that sad.  Oh and when I say blow Iran off of the map, I mean that there would not be a single person left alive in Iran nor a single building still standing. and it would be a nuclier waist land for years.
Mar 30 2007 2:01AM
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RudyGarmisch
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Dude, dont bother, I'm pretty sure she has no intention of learning anything about world history, and gets most of her 'reliable information' from Rush Limbaugh.
Mar 30 2007 2:13AM
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cobra_commander
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As for you, Iran fucking loves alQuida, and every one else that is 100% against Isreal.
Mar 30 2007 2:14AM
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RudyGarmisch
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Iran officially has no relation with such an organization, and would be fucking insane to do so. While I'm sure they are supporting insurgency in the middle east, I highly doubt they would ever so boldly finance and support an organization so demonized by the United States.

And yes, I realize that the Arab world heavily dislikes the state of Israel. And guess what. As an American, I highly dislike Israel as well. Funding Israel has done fucking nothing for the US, and our continued involvement in that quagmire of  religious strife has only deepened resentments towards our country in the area. However, you must realize that very few individuals, let alone entire cultures are completely and unanimously against Israel and our foreign policy. More so, many of these cultures do have blatantly, and in my opinion, more than reasonable reasons to hate Western Culture and all that we have 'bestowed' upon their nations. Who the fuck are we to say that they are assholes in supporting such a cause?
Mar 30 2007 2:24AM
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pmills
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whats wrong with bill 0? he's the loudest... loud > factual
Mar 30 2007 2:39AM
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anna*
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any bets that british and aussie troops will be left there though, after more have been sent on request of america.

fucking bullshit.
Mar 30 2007 4:33AM
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thats_random
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hahahaha
Mar 30 2007 9:12AM
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MitchPee
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1. Yep, you're pretty ignorant to the fact that when we installed the Shah he hanged and tortured thousands more people than Saddam. He created a monarchy in Iran. That's why there was a revolution in 1979 (which you probably have never heard about). We were responsible for directly installing the leader of this. There was no vote, just installation.

2. No what we should have done is not wage war on the wrong person. The Taliban had NOTHING to do with 9/11. None of their members had anything to do with Al-Qaeda. They were simply in the same country.

3. They won't nuke us. It goes against everything they are fighting for.

4. Thank you for telling me that. I understand why you are so ignorant to these things now.

5. You sound like you've been hanging out with 50 year old republicans your entire life. Too young? Hell, Kennedy was 44 when he entered office, and look at all the fame we gave him. Sometimes being younger is a good thing and sometimes experience doesn't always matter within reason.

6. "taking money from the rich? that's their money...not the US's money."

Good, voice your opinion, just know that you sound like an ignorant bitch.

Mar 30 2007 9:13AM
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MitchPee
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I just realized half these points were made already, damn it.
Mar 30 2007 9:18AM
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