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Eff off switch ups!!

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the_zissou
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i know skiers will never be par to snowboarders on rails, but we should try and become more creative with our rail variations. switch ups are good, but they are played out and seen too much. more presses, approaches, and new tricks should be tried on rails.

i think a good long nose press should beat out a couple switch ups in a rail comp.
Mar 24 2007 12:08PM
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artfullydodged
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the tricks we can do that they can't (one-footed, tweaked ski, etc.) all look gay, but i have seen pis of jf houle anlgling his skis so the tips point to the beginning of the rail
Mar 25 2007 11:29AM
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shagalabagala
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i do nosepresses!!
Mar 25 2007 11:32AM
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dead
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Aye! That's it, sir Nyman.

Watch the superunknown videos. Some of those guys just do every imaginable combination of spin on and off of rails. 270 on pretzel switch up to switch, or like 450 on pretzel 270 out, you know. None of them actually seem to take care of what they're doing style wise. Rail style is more than just looking hunched over and forced! There is a distance on snow before and after rails too that should be considered and people should take care of that and make it beautiful looking.

I feel a lot of those guys should just loosen up, be natural and stuff. Seeing it happen so crazy though, you figure they are going to win with stuff like this.

Which is sad, because doing everything just takes away from the reasons why I ski. To have preferences, different tastes. Sure, you could 270 on danish switch up danish 270 followed by the same trick, pretzeled. But it would be even nicer if you formed yourself some preferences and opinions. Say, "no! I don't like crowning rails, and two pretzels in one trick is just to much!".

Example, I refuse to front 270 out of rails. I find it to be a really overdone and gross trick. Anybody can front 270 out of everything. I actually just feel that way about all front side tricks. For blind side tricks, I just really enjoy doing more or less simple stuff that hardly ever gets done. Switch on pretzel 270, or 450 at the very most. Or switch on pretzel switch ups, to regular.

That's when I actually spin around on rails. But as mentioned earlier there's so much more than that! Tap on! Tap off! Scissor tap! Scissor slide! Tail to nose tap, danish out! I can't believe I'm writing this stuff down on this website!
Mar 25 2007 12:45PM
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SnowMedic
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ya no kidding, if yo can do them learn, if you dont want to learn STFU and do something else.
Mar 25 2007 12:51PM
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jhackbeez
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i think this whole thread is retarded, mainly the guy who made it
Mar 25 2007 12:55PM
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the_zissou
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zing! ouch! bam! whammer! blaow!

once again civility should be in order.
Mar 25 2007 5:38PM
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Edward.
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yea i know what you mean, but if nosepresses werent as impossible to do i would be doing them all the time. i wanna try to start doing them a lot and do more stuff on skis that snowboarders do like nose/tail presses that other skiers arent doing. but i hate it wen someone posts a picture of themselves falling off the side of a rail and say that its a nose or a tail press wen they were never trying to actually tail press or nose press
Mar 25 2007 5:49PM
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the_zissou
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please view the photo/video of pollard doing a real nose press to switch out on that box in hood. great example of something different.

and the terminology of nose press/slide has been mixed up. i'm guilty of calling it wrong as well, but a nose slide is where you're sliding perpendicular to the rail and a nose press is when you're parallel.
Mar 25 2007 9:44PM
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wh@t
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al lanning, tom wallisch, travis heed ummm jea, nuff said eh?
Mar 25 2007 10:17PM
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invader7
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nuff said
Mar 25 2007 10:19PM
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DynastarriderGP
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SWITCHUPS WILL NEVER DIE!!!!!!!!!!!

Mar 25 2007 10:27PM
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aznpcskier
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sorry to sound like a nob but what is a danish...please don't pwn me
Mar 25 2007 10:27PM
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skisher
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it depends on the press, if its mad pressed out and the kid that switch ups are kinda sketchy the kid with the press should win
Mar 25 2007 10:39PM
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the_zissou
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sorry no.
Mar 25 2007 10:48PM
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*DrewT*
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ya really they do mad tech stuff that i could never do but the style just isn't really there. Not that I have amazing style on rails but I'm working on it
Mar 25 2007 10:57PM
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titsLOL
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how does it take away from the trick? a trick is a trick, doesn't matter what the person has thrown in the past if they do a sweet trick its a sweet trick. presses are sick too though they'll probably get more and more popular as people get bored of the rail tricks bein done these days like switch ups. pretzels are sick too though. it's all sick cuz its all skiing!! geez.
Mar 25 2007 10:57PM
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dlite!
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blind toos out of every rail every possible way. when that is done. rails are plaaayed.
Mar 25 2007 11:03PM
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*DrewT*
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how bout shifty on the rail? Somebody try it
Mar 25 2007 11:05PM
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Schoening
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watch this video and watch the clip of where this still clip came from...soooo dope, honeywell fucking kills it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTMEXGWRyf0
Mar 25 2007 11:05PM
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the_zissou
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i just watched the tricktapes stuff. good idea. i like the concept, but watching those guys on those rails is boring. all they are doing is bouncing around. i feel it is much easier to 270 onto a box and keep switching up with your momentum, than it is to 270 on and stop your momentum.
Mar 25 2007 11:08PM
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dead
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Whew, that mixtape video made me pretty tired.

Tired of spins every which way. Stawp!
Mar 26 2007 12:13AM
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skisher
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theres that one shot in btbhs were its an up flat down box and he noses the up regulars the flat and tails the down, u think people should start doing stuff more around that
Mar 26 2007 7:46AM
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fouldsys
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snowboarders own skiers on rails for 2 reasons: the endless variety of presses they can do and the fact they can hit a rail ollie near the end and tap the end of the rail, it looks so fun
Mar 26 2007 8:16AM
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Abes2009
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how cant a snowboarder not do pretzels??
Mar 26 2007 8:58AM
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the_zissou
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yes. but there is still much more.
Mar 26 2007 1:54PM
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T-DUB
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u r a homosexual
Mar 26 2007 1:56PM
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[~_~]
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wasnt that from Jibopoly?
Mar 26 2007 2:04PM
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jksl
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what's funny is in the past few years i've seen more and more snowboarders doing switch up type of things...

but on the actual subject at hand, i don't think it really matters....just do whatever you want and let others do whatever, if everyone stopped doing switch ups and only presses were done then it would be pretty boring. why not switch up to presses eh?

Mar 26 2007 2:13PM
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Literature
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Thank you for your constuctive and well thought out remarks. They make the statement that you are really the person who should be criticized, not those who are making justifited opinions.

Personally, I like switchups because they are fun to do, and add a bit of difficulty to rails for me. I have messed around with sliding back and forward under my bindings, as well as doing mini daffies while on a rail. These are fun as well.

Rail style, like any style, is determined on a person to person basis. What I think is cool may not be the same as you, and therefore it is difficult to judge "skiing" as a whole when the personal interpretation of what skiing is factors so heavily into how a skier views the sport.

 I challenge anyone who does not like a particular part of their skiing or wants to do something new to change that aspect of their own skiing, and let that creativity come from a personal level rather than doing the latest trendy grab ( truckdrivers, for example) or learning the latest style (geurilla steeze, a couple of years ago). To me, innovating for my self is far more pleasureble and rewarding than learning the lastest trendy thing in a video.
Mar 26 2007 2:14PM
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matthasaurusrex
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If someone does tons of switch ups and has fun skiing, cool!

If someone does tons of presses has fun skiing, cool!

just have fun! everyone has a differnt style...
Mar 26 2007 3:32PM
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.d.
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theres the picture i was wanting to post
Mar 26 2007 3:34PM
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dead
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There is nothing keeping you from doing that on skis, nothing at all.
Mar 26 2007 6:52PM
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parkchilla
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Switchups are sweet, presses are sweet
Mar 26 2007 8:58PM
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EClay46
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ya, skiing 270s out look much better than that guys 180s out, and his very few 270s out
i didnt see 1 pretzel unless u mean he went 270 on then 90 out the other way which doesnt even count, also that guy is a PRO, i see many ski amatuers who i feel are way sicker on rails
Mar 26 2007 9:30PM
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tjski
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i like switch ups. but i have yet to see a tailpress to nosepress..
Mar 26 2007 9:35PM
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gfanuckaa
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yea yea i hear what ur sayin and new stuff is great but do what u want -kooley might not do switch ups in that vid n still have good style but watch lucas-magoon-son tell me that ninja dont dance on rails w/ style like no othaa
Mar 27 2007 12:01AM
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hendrik.
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there's a difference between switch ups and tap dancing.
Mar 27 2007 12:22AM
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k-k-kyle
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but rails on snowboards are 1,000 times easier on a snow board than on skis. i say this from experience from only going snowboarding a couple times and skiing my whole life. i disagree that ski jibbing is far behind snowboarding. ski jibbing is far more technical and difficult
Mar 27 2007 12:23AM
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nitsua
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isnt switch and fakie the same thing?
Mar 27 2007 12:24AM
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k-k-kyle
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thats insane. who is that?
Mar 27 2007 12:27AM
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zaser
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sorry by fakie i meant switch popping off your tails, and to the guy up there, learn what a pretzel is, you don't have to do a 270 on for the trick to be called a pretzel, when you do skierslide fs 270 out you are doing skierslide pretzel 270 out. jon kooley does good fs nose pretzels. and it surprises me that you think skiers have better 270s out than kooley, but that is your opinion.
Mar 27 2007 1:45AM
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buchanan.
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AHAHAHAHAHA
Mar 27 2007 2:10AM
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zcru
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all you guys AND are scum
Mar 27 2007 3:26AM
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thejackal1177
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handdrags are so fun
Mar 27 2007 7:01AM
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salth91
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i like doin nose pres switch up nose press their pretty fun
Mar 27 2007 10:21AM
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EClay46
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i just think that it shouldnt be pretzel if u go on with a 90 degree turn and then 270 out the opposite way, that isnt even technical at all, especially on a rail, maybe if it was on a box, it would be a little bit more difficult, but not tech. It isnt even technical at all until u start spinning on or if u sw up on the box/rail then spin out opposite way
Mar 27 2007 10:33AM
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ilikemuffins
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so true but we'll never be able to do shit compared to snowboarders.. watch bitner's seg in follow me around and you'll know whats up..
Mar 27 2007 11:42AM
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3ski6guy0
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can you even do switch ups?
Mar 27 2007 12:21PM
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srwinnsuco
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switchups are cool and fun and so are presses, if you assholes cant do both then shut the fuck up
Mar 27 2007 12:27PM
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