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Scratch bc wrs, maden ak/ak enemy, or lizzy?

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leone
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so i think i've narrowed my choices down to these three skis.  i know the lizzy may seem a little out of place but they're very intriguing.  i'm 5'8" 150lb and i want a ski for the east coast and a little bit out west, that i can charge hard with, but still be nimble and really fun to mess around on.  the catch is that i already have a pair of sprayer bc's otherwise i'd prob automatically go with the scratch bc's but the k2's and the lizzy's are tempting me
Mar 20 2007 6:18PM
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ski_powpow
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The ak's are super super sick they crush and melt faces when your charging, and handle pretty well everywhere else.
Mar 20 2007 6:22PM
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bigwhite.steeze
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aks are good but i heard there pretty stiff.it might the complete opposite though
Mar 20 2007 6:27PM
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leone
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i heard the 189's are stiffer than the 179 which is the size i'd get
Mar 20 2007 6:30PM
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Ryanvdonk
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are you kidding? maidens/ak enemy (this years) are really soft, like almost comparable to SFBs.
Mar 20 2007 6:32PM
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leone
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yea i saw some guy with ak enemies at mount snow and he was doing genies and i could see the crazy flex in the tip.  is there any difference between the ak enemy and the maden ak?
Mar 20 2007 6:36PM
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invaderskier36
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i think it is just the name b/c of legal rights but i could be wrong
Mar 20 2007 6:42PM
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Ryanvdonk
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they are the same, they just renamed i for this year.
Mar 20 2007 6:42PM
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leone
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so it sounds like the maden's are the way to go, i think the scratches would be too similar to the sprayers or atleast it wouldn't make much sense to have those two
Mar 20 2007 6:47PM
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leone
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any other thoughts
Mar 20 2007 8:06PM
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ijibgoremtn
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id say check lizzies cuz you can still ride everything on the eastcoast like park and hit up the pow in the west cost
Mar 20 2007 9:02PM
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720skiguy
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i love my scratch bc's and im in michigan using them mainly out west, same thing as you
Mar 20 2007 9:07PM
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MarkieR
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lizzies are sweet if you're little and/or you don't charge super hard. i rode the bc wrs for an extended period this past winter and it is off the charts. super fun all around ski. one of my favorites for sure. i owned the made'n ak last season and it is off the charts as well. much softer than the bc but super floaty and easy to maneuver in pow/trees/whatever. i'd say rule out the lizzy... if you're going to be charging more demanding lines (choppy snow at high speeds), go with the bc. if you're going to be playing around in the park and want a surfy soft ski, go with the made'n/ak enemy.
Mar 20 2007 9:45PM
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leone
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cool so it's down to the scratches and the ak's so my final question is which one will be a good match to go along with the sprayer bc's which i use for basically everything right now.  i don't want to have two skis that are too similar
Mar 20 2007 9:48PM
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MarkieR
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get the made'n/ak enemy then. it'll be a totally different feeling ski than what you are currently on. you'll dig it.
Mar 20 2007 10:03PM
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asonUnique
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yup, i've heard from many sources that they're rediculously flimsy
Mar 20 2007 10:07PM
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leone
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^ you're flimsy
Mar 20 2007 10:08PM
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bobs
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they are not like the sprayers at all really.  Noticeably lighter, I liked the flex more.  They skid more solid through crud and in general on the mountain. They are wider and over all a better ski.  But I haven't ridden the others so its hard to say.  The bc wrs is a very versital ski.  It handled knee plus deep powder, tracked, groomers, and the park all very well.
Mar 20 2007 10:25PM
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poofartpee
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lizzy...but thats just cause im not a fan of K2
Mar 20 2007 10:44PM
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Buzz
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You can't charge EC HP with flimsy skis.
Mar 20 2007 11:43PM
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leone
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i could go with the scratches and be happy but the problem may be that i wouldn't use my sprayers enough with the new bc's cause they're almost too versatile maybe, but i'm not sure exactly how versatile the maden's really are

Mar 21 2007 12:03PM
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MarkieR
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made'ns are super versatile. i live in ohio and i skied mine most of the time here (hard pack, park, rails). they absolutely kill it in deep snow too. i rode them at squaw for a couple of weeks in everything from deep deep pow to warm heavy crud to bluebird park to cold hard icy groomers. the only problem i had was that i felt they got tossed a bit in the heavy crud, but i'm 180 pounds/6' and i definitely should have been on the 189's. if you get the 179's you'll be in great shape. you have to get the made'ns. i swear you'll be so stoked.
Mar 21 2007 12:14PM
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bobs
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If you are looking for one all around ski, bc wrs is about as good as you get.  If you are looking to build a quiver. BC sprayers are a decent ski for park and groomers.  Lizzies are a fun ski if thats what you are looking for, a fun powder/ jib tool.  Madens are deffinately a good big mt ski from what i've heard. It'd be a good charging ski. I don't think you can really go wrong but i have nvere skid madens thats based on what ive heard 
Mar 21 2007 6:17PM
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